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Edited by SeawardChimp753:
4/29/2024 3:30:15 PM
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Conditional finality is a cancer on the crucible which needs to be sorted
It is more potent than pre nerf felwinters, it has the highest handling stat making it easier to use than any other agressive frame, it has its own spread pattern which is better than any other, can kill literally anything in one shot and the list goes on
It is not healthy for the crucible, look at the usage and kill stats. It needs to be reigned in whether that is bring its handling down to the lowest possible (so it kill still be a super killer but not as easy to use), turn it into a rapid fire (with the effects landing all pellets would still deal more than an agressive frame but punished for not not landing them), ban it from PvP (no pve nerf just roots out the problem)
Any other suggestions are good but it DOES need tuning and that cannot be denied
Look at the stats before trying to defend the weapon in PvP
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2 Repliesimo Conditional Finality does way more good than harm Having an option to cut through a lot of the BS that came about from the Subclasses 3.0 changes is much needed to keep players from feeling completely helpless against certain strategies, especially in Dominion Trials At base, it is better than other Shotguns for pure Shotgunning, but once you start adding in perks that Conditional doesn't have access to, like Quickdraw, Threat Detector, Elemental Capacitor, and Opening Shot, the playing field is way more level for Legendary options. This consideration is for pure neutral Shotgunning One thing I see a lot of people not mention in the Conditional Conversation is that most of the best primary options right now are Legendary Energy weapons, and with that in mind, why wouldn't you use Conditional? Like, Imperial Decree is just as consistent for me in neutral terms, but if I'm using a good Legendary Energy Primary, why wouldn't I just take the Shotgun that can also sort out Overshields, Woven Mail, and actually gives me a chance at killing a Super? Like, give me Exotic Primaries that are worth considering over the Legendary BiS But I dunno, I think the gun is fine. It helps fight the stuff that isn't fine in my eyes. I've never been killed by Conditional in a way that felt out of band since the last patch it got. I think people are just tired of seeing its name in their feed
