originally posted in:Secrets of Destiny
The Traveler weighs approximately [b]185,333 times more than the Earth.
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I have some questions for you guys at the bottom of the post that relate to my assumptions and calculations, I want input from other passionate lore fans:
[b]Data, assumptions, volume calculations:[/b]
[spoiler]Measuring conservatively by using a ruler on my monitor to compare the traveler and a skyscraper, I got results that said the Traveler is approximately 22 times taller than the tallest tower in the center of The City.
Assuming the towers are similar to current human skyscrapers, I am giving them a height of 1,000 meters.
The traveler is roughly 22,000 meters tall.
I assume the outermost two layers [url=https://guardianrecon.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/traveler-close-up.jpg](the gray and the white plating[/url]) to be in total 1km thick.
Using a radius of 11,000 meters, I calculated the volume of the entire Traveler
V = 5.58×10^12 Cubic Meters
Subtracting the volume of a sphere with a radius of 10km from the volume of the Traveler in order to find the volume of the mantle
5.58×10^12m^3 - 4.19×10^12m^3
= 1.39^12m^3
That’s 1,390,000,000,000m^3
One trillion 390 billion cubic meters. [/spoiler]
[b]The materials listed by the Grimoire:[/b]
[spoiler]“Ghost Fragment: The Traveler
Dreams of Alpha Lupi
You have lived as invisibly as possible, flicking from solar system to solar system, making grand plans, overseeing the culturing of civilizations, before leaving in a blink. But you have no recollection of ever wanting worship or even thanks from those blessed by you.
But memory is heavy now.
It feels like lead and neutronium and electroweak matter fashioned into a moon-sized ball that you must carry as you move.
Now, your flight is rapid, your vast mind infected with such dread and toxic doubt that you find yourself afraid of the simple act of thought.
And it is your children you must turn to now, in time of need.”[/spoiler]
[b]Final calculations:[/b]
[spoiler]
Three materials are listed, Lead, Neutronium, and Electroweak Material. I’m paying close attention to the mention of Neutronium, as it would be the best choice for outer armor plating on the Traveler.
Neutronium is a superdense material thought to be at the center of neutron stars.
It has a density of 8×1017 kg/m^3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_star
Multiplying the weight per meter cubed of Neutronium by the volume of the Traveler’s mantle:
8×10^17kg/m^3 * 1.39^12m^3
= 1.112x10^30 kg
The Earth itself only weighs 6x10^24kg.[/spoiler]
To sum up, if the traveler’s outermost 1 kilometer of shell is made from neutronium, then it is [b]roughly 185,333 times more [i]massive* [/i]than the Earth. [/b]
*Thanks to Jarod for helping me realize I was being a bit to casual in my terminology, lol.
[u]Important questions that I have for you guys:[/u]
[b]Are my calculations sound?[/b]
Just looking at the scars on the Traveler and knowing there is and clockwork-style internal structure is how I got my guess of a 1km thickness for the outer plating. [b]Do you guys have any better guesses or ways of figuring out the thickness?[/b] Please do not refer me to the early concept art of the Traveler as the design has changed a great deal since then.
“Electroweak Material” confuses me, I know some chemistry, not much in the way of physics lol. [b]Anyone here know what it might be?[/b] I was thinking some sort of magical graphene or silicon.
EDIT: Had some good comments left by fellow forums goers, apparently I don't need to worry about accounting for this stuff.
If someone who has a big flatscreen TV could get me a measurement of the tallest tower and a measurement of the traveler in centimeters, I would be happy to go back over and refine the calculations, TBH I got them using a ruler on my small-ish PC monitor that I have plugged into my One.
And guys, no one unplug the antigravity…
Special thanks to Charlemagne and Qwerty for fact checking me while I was making rough drafts of this.
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Well then, I'll be over here in the corner seeing that I have a hard enough time with math, but props to you!!!
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Great calculations! But idk if I'm the only one but, the traveler looks hollow to me. Maybe factor that in?
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Eww learning
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How long did it take to figure this out? Kudos to you and your friends!
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Edited by captainbutters2: 4/7/2015 8:48:18 PMGive this guardian a scholarship
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1 km thick seems a bit too thick, the bottom part of it looks like there's gaps in its shape, and that the outer shell shouldn't be more than 100 feet thick at the very most, I may have to check with some more images on this, but I'm doubtful it's a full 1000 meter thickness.
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This is sooooo cool (no sarcasm intended) I had a physics gasm
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Since the sun is 1.989 x 10^30 kg, how is it possible that the traveler entered our solar system without completely throwing off planetary orbits and causing the solar system to collapse?
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Mind=blown well done
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Edited by logikbrooklyn: 4/7/2015 7:03:06 PMI'm sorry, I'm not a scientist...I'm just a businessman, but I believe I found a flaw in your calculations. The correct weight for the traveler is actually 0, as it's fake, it has no mass or structure.
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still not as heavy as your mom
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Mad science!!!!!!
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Why can't we drop it on our enemies then?
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maybe you have a little too much time on your hands nowadays but thanks for the input i never wondered any of that or even cared too
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You mother weights more.
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Damn, didn't know pixels were so heavy :)
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Edited by Dr. Bruh, PhD: 4/7/2015 2:41:18 AMIf you can look at the older preorder bonus posters for the game , you can see the traveller in direct comparison to the earth http://fav.me/d6b2gfm It's hard to gauge the exact scale of the earth in the poster , but by looking at the curve of the Earth , you can find a rough circumference of the earth in the photo . finding the circumference of the earth in the photo and scaling it against the actual circumference of the earth gives a fairly accurate estimate to the size of the traveller . I feel that this is easier than measuring it compared to skyscrapers of unknown height and distance to the traveller .
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Weighs about the same as ur mum pal
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What a waste of time...
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Good math, but I think finding something better to do would be in your best interest.
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Bro. Go outside. Get laid maybe
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If the outer shell is made of neutronium, it still won't weigh as much as yo momma.
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You're an expert at ball handling.
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What do you mean, it weights more than the earth? The earth has no weight, the earth only has mass. So you mean to say the traveler has 185,333 times earths mass? Well you said don't turn off the anti-gravity, and you are right. With that much mass the traveler would wreak havoc. Just imagine the gravitational pull. The suns mass is about 333,000 times that of earh. You see that by your calculations the traveler would have more than half the mass of the sun. WHICH IS TOTALLY CRAZY! Haha. Not trying to criticize you I love what you have done. Still CRAZY!! If that was true we would be totally -blam!-ed. Like, royally. Life on earth would be impossible.
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Riddle me this: How are we not all pulled onto the traveller? Since it's mass is greater than that of the earth, it's gravitational pull would eclipse that of the earth.