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Edited by Big Rip Barney:
2/13/2015 12:21:06 AM
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What Primary Should I Use To Be Lethal In PvP (Video)
Hey guys this is a 35.0 K/D game I had on Twilight Gap yesterday, once I had the game I thought I would use the gameplay to talk about the Three main primaries I see killin it in the Crucible and my thoughts overall into those weapons.
Some points out of the video-
I do not like the Thorn, but it is a very good weapon. Just know when you use this weapon you are probably pissing people off with the D.O.T. Personally I do not like to use weapons that I do not like playing against so this is why I chose to not rock the Thorn unless I feel the need to because I am playing other people using the Thorn who are also playing very conservative.
The Last Word is King. It's the truth and if you don't believe me because my channel is called "DirtBag"Gaming then just go to twitch and watch some of the top crucible players play "Sweatys" or games against other top caliber crucible players. With this gun I prefer to ADS (Aim Down Sight) but if you do not have the best aim it may be better to hip fire more often.
Suros Regime is out dated at High Level Play. This gun is awesome and is very intuitive to use, I Love It, but simply put it does not put out enough damage to compete at the Top. Having said that this gun still hangs in 90% of Crucible matches and since it is so intuitive it is still a good option. I am VERY disappointed to see Bungie nerfing this gun again, people have their own opinion and mine is that assault rifles need a buff to compete with Hand Cannons which are ruling the crucible right now at the "Pro" level. There is a predicament here though because the majority of players are not "Pro" and according to stats shown by Bungie, assault rifles are the main tool of destruction in the crucible, this is most likely because Assault Rifles are a common shooter weapon and more players feel comfortable using an Assault Rifle than a Hand Cannon and there is nothing wrong with that.
The Jubes (The Bad Juju) is one of the most rewarding weapons in the Crucible and I can not wait for it to be buffed. Getting that instant reload to then kill another opponent is a really good feeling and if you do not have this weapon I highly suggest that you get it as your next exotic bounty if given the option. As of now I am comfortable using this gun in Crucible when I roll by myself, when you aim at the head this gun can feel like it is melting the enemy, but as soon as I match up with a team or roll in some "Sweatys" this gun starts to lose its traction and against The Last Word the Jubes has no place.
Now I know there a bunch more Primaries to talk about and use but these are the ones that I chose to represent since I have a lot of experience using them and I felt like I was qualified to give them all a fair shake.
Hope you guys enjoy the video.
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1 ReplyGreat job bro! I dismantled last word; I didn't like it. Keep making good vids:)
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Looks like your playing against 6 yr olds
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3 RepliesI've started upgrading my last word yesterday after having it in my vault for months. I'm gonna begin using it to see how it is although I'm not good with handcannons in pvp
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1 ReplyYou.. you monster.... you did not wait for your teammates before taking the heavy ammo!
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Good job man I had the last word but I dismantled it but I got another one from nightfall I might start using it before the patch now
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1 ReplyU remind me of crimsix XD (good thing) Dude you're a genuinely good rusher! Nasty shots Lol No need to camp to tear it up; respect. Unlike most crucible tryhards noobs >_> Keep on making vids yo, def worth watching. Probably make 1 with the best lines of sight? Lol def gonna sub
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1 ReplyTLW is definitely my favourite weapon...the thorn comes close so it's hard to tell which is better but TLW all the way for me. The only thing that bugs me in the new patch is that it affects TLW more than thorn. The range is already bad for TLW and the quick fire shooting for TLW will be hit harder than thorn.
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4 RepliesTLW plus Sniper w/ Ambush+Armor Piercing and a Tracking Rocket Launcher. Sometimes I'll use a Shotgun and No Land Beyond.
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1 ReplyTLW is the best overall weapon. Close quarters domination. Mid range engagement are good too.
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3 RepliesDo your shots ever not hit the target!? With your aim, I doubt weapon choice matters against 99% of the players. Good stuff!
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3 RepliesWhy you no stream? (the bad grammar was for fun, the question was serious)
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1 ReplyGlad to see such a large percentage of sensible people. I agree about the thorn big time. It's cheap. Feels cheap to die by it. Feels cheap to get kills with it. I just grit my teeth and go sit behind some cover for a second.
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3 RepliesTLW isn't the best hand cannon, don't get me wrong it is amazing when you proc those dirty 114 hits. They will instantly win you any engagement usually. However, the Thorn is the best hand cannon all around. It spouts the fastest kill time of all three and has guaranteed finish damage if someone choose to run from you. That and usually you only need 3 shots. After the Thorn its gotta be the Hawkmoon and after the new patch Hawkmoon will probably be the best due to its range bar being absurd. The ability to use it at long range all with its trolly 1 shot will make it the best. Thorn is the best right now because it does not rely on random chance to pull a .34 sec kill time. What you said about the Suros is 100% true its been that way since they buffed the Thorn and sold TLW. Hell if you were rocking a Mida with an armor titan you could out trade it in most situations provided you hit the head. After the nerf it'll probably sit right around 1 sec kill time and at that point, provided head shots, every gun in the game will be able to beat it. I'm surprised you didn't mention the Pocket infin or Vex mytho which one still remains broken and the other the soon to be only good auto left. As for the Juju. It gets better solely because its damage gets increased further raising its potential of 1 clip killing. That's it, period. The gun is still terribly bad in every other aspect and I would highly recomend the Red death or any of the fast firing vendor pulses. As they have the exact same stats (only actually has more impact) and rock stability and range perks. String of curses is good but when your reload bar is max it don't really do much. The red death after this patch will be better because it will finally be back to a 2 hit on everything but a max armor titan. Its about god damn time they gave it back to, since everything is a TKO race in this game.
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TLW is my easy mode, because I am not even that good at PVP in Destiny and still am able to knock off 10 killstreaks with it. Other guns, not so much. I can do well with the Thorn, but it doesn't rule CQC like TLW. Also agree on the Suros, but find that using an AR and doing well is very situational, depending on map and how long an enemy wants to stand there and get shot in the head. If I am stuck in a laggy match, the Vex makes a good equalizer, even though I hate to use it in PVP. All of those guns are considered OP/douchey to use in PVP, but they are what works best for primaries. I tried using Three Little Words pulse rifle that YouTubers raved about and it still wasn't competitive with an AR for me, so we will see what the update does to it. I also like Scout Rifles, but the size of many maps make it tough to choose a Scout over a hand cannon. In the hands of a skilled person, though, a good Scout should be right up there.
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9 RepliesBarney, Here are my favorite primaries and why. -universal remote: this is ONLY if you have the ability to make a sniper work at all but close distance. Combine with blink or invisibility for added benefits. Unlike other shotguns, aim for the head. -tlw: it is broken. 111's while ads. That is all -thorn: it is broken. 2 shot kill cross map. Visible dot -mida multi tool: I use this as a "tool" to move quickly around the map. Shoulder charge ftw. Switch to special when close. -timurs lash: spec for lucky or final round or crowd control. 2 shot kills -gheleons demise: 3 shot kills cross map. Spec for firefly -vanquisher 8: spec reactive reload and stability/rangefinder ... The list can go on. I would have put no land beyond but that gun is punishing to use in sweaty matches
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1 Reply1. Last Word 2. Nothing else
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1 ReplyMost definitely the[b] No Land Beyond[/b]. But you better be using it before the patch because I am pretty sure they are going to nerf the crap out of it. Way too OP.
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1.TLW 2.Midda 3.Vex
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2 RepliesIf you aren't using TLW, then you're doing it wrong.
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1 ReplyEdited by iSuperkyIe: 2/13/2015 4:10:44 PMthe gun you choose to use isn't end all. Your brain is, and the way you play is. 1: strafe, try not to move in straight lines toward enemy players, especially if you're in a 1v1 situation. 2: Be aware of everything. 3: don't play the enemies games, be unpredictable.
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Vex. Owns all up close and a sniper for distance
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Junoversal remote
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5 RepliesEdited by kkbubble: 2/13/2015 12:56:41 PMThe top tier pvp guns Vex Hawkmoon TLW Thorn Do you see a pattern bungie?? Also what do you think of universal remote? I personally love it and i don't have it's exotic perk yet
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If you got fate bringer I'd definitely use that haha I love it in pvp
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I agree with you, i used to use sauros but now it's strictly pve. I find myself alternating between tlw, hawk, edict, and of course the Vex when i want to piss people off.
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1 ReplyI still rock visions in Crucible. 27 rounds, Scout Fires in Full Auto. 3-4 precision headshots it's a wrap. Bout to use that raid scout once Iron Banner rolls around.
