i think i ended up playing with about 12 different dads last night. i'm a little hung over and my cheeks hurt from laughing so much. both signs of an excellent night. thanks everyone for the great runs till 2am. pvp and pve was great fun. sorry i couldn't finish the vog raid carl, syvel, para, drago, and three. internet error 807 something showed up at 2am pretty much telling me to head up to bed.