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2/19/2015 3:12:17 AM
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After reading that you have given me hope about those who have God with them. How can you believe what you believe after writing what you wrote. Like in knowing that all those text that don't match in the Bible? Understanding that this could just have been made up?
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  • The texts that don't match? Well, I don't really know if there's any that don't exactly match, but there are parts that are obviously opinionated pieces by the authors. Like Peter's letters, in Romans I think it talks about how he believed that women should be subordinate to men, but that's obviously not what God in the Bible wants, Jesus outright chose Mary to be one of his disciples for that reason. Some parts of the Bible are widely acknowledged as metaphors/parables/myth/etc. One of the things I remember learning that really shed some light on things was how the very beginning of Genesis isn't meant to be some literal recollection of how God made the universe, it's really just a poem. You can go ahead and look at it, it's structured just like that, and it ends with God creating Humanity, intending that God saved his best creation for last and that was Mankind. You've also got the story of Lot and his family who leave Sodom and Gomorrah before God destroys the cities. In that story God's angels warn them not to look back at the city as they leave or they will die. Lot's wife ended up looking back at the city and turned into a statue/pillar of salt. That's really just there to be an explanation for why the Salt Pillars in that region exist. [quote]How can you believe what you believe after writing what you wrote.[/quote] Let me ask you, how can you believe what you believe knowing that you don't have all the scientific answers to everything? That is how Christians believe what they believe. You don't know, it's a matter of faith, perhaps one belief requires somewhat more than the other, but they both need it in the end.

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  • I have many scientific facts for me to believe. Certainly more than Christians have. The creation of the universe and evolution give me better answers than a book written 2000 years ago. These and the continuing facts that we learn every day. I like science because I can accept that if we learn a new piece of evidence that disproves new information, that we were wrong. Religion does not have room for this. You must have faith. It's too easy. It's selling a invisible product, always.

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  • [quote]I have many scientific facts for me to believe. Certainly more than Christians have.[/quote] Okay, so? Would you care to give examples so I can tell what you're believing as facts Christians don't have? [quote]The creation of the universe and evolution give me better answers than a book written 2000 years ago.[/quote] Uh, okay? That wasn't at all my point. [quote]These and the continuing facts that we learn every day. I like science because I can accept that if we learn a new piece of evidence that disproves new information, that we were wrong. Religion does not have room for this. You must have faith. It's too easy. It's selling a invisible product, always.[/quote] Yeah, this isn't correct. Science and Religion are not two conflicting things. Like I said, some of the greatest philosophers and scientists have been religious, Issac Newton was Christian. The discovery of new things and the scientific process is not something religion is against, but that seems like what you're saying, correct me if I'm wrong? Religion isn't a magical solution to all problems, it doesn't answer everything.

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  • One at a time. Being Gay is a sin according to Christianity. Science has discovered the gay gene.

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  • Having sexual intercourse with another of the same gender is said to be a sin in the Old Testament and is mentioned in a few more opinionated letters in the New Testament. It's not too clear if it is still sinful, because the laws of Leviticus were pretty much thrown out b/c of Christ dying. Because of this, it's really left to interpretation unfortunately, and so fundamentalists tend to consider it still sinful. There is no single gay gene. It is a combination of many different factors, like being the youngest of many brothers. Again, what is that supposed to prove and what point from my post was yours addressing?

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