In a fight to the death, who would win? First round is raw power. I.e, no "past, present, future" bologna and no oversoul either.
Second round involves minions. Discuss?
Edict 1: I said edict on purpose.
Edict 2: Ir Yut VS Gatekeeper.
Edict 3: WOW FIFTY PEOPLE COMMENTED!
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Crota, easily. He goes ham with that -blam!-ing sword. But honestly, with how shit the AI is, they'd both get hung up on rocks and shoot at the walls in front of them.
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Without Timestream or Oversoul I'd have to give it to Crota, you can still hurt Atheon without Times Vengeance but it's weaker... yet crota requires the sword to damage him. Although if the abilities were in play, I'd give it go Atheon because Crota is kind of a bitch who relies on his minions too much. Hive vs Vex: Vex win, they have Grenades and all have guns, only acolytes and boomers have guns, and the wizard shooter thing doesn't really affect the praetorians shield....
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If there's no "lost in time" or oversoul stuff, Crota can't lose. Atheon can take damage even without times vengeance active, and Crota can only be hurt by the swordbearers sword.
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Have you seen the vex fight hive? No, why because they are together they ate the darkness
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Atheon would just cheese him and win easy
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Atheon. Even Gorgons could just kill crota by erasing him with their gaze.
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Atheon. He can just erase crota from existence.
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I took too long in the other room reading this...... And my cat ate the meat out of my chalupa...
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Can we trade out gk for templar and js antheon has oracles too right, plus if u drop crotas shield he takes knee where as antheon only holds still when u teleport him and.tho he may not weild a sword he could at least run ballistics and blow up an area around sword sending in into crota? Idk maybe that last part is.too outlandish
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Crota
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Get to the choppa / ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° _ノ ヽ ノ \_ `/ `/ ⌒Y⌒ Y ヽ ( (三ヽ人 / | | ノ⌒\  ̄ ̄ヽ ノ ヽ___>、___/ |( 王 ノ〈 /ミ`ー―彡ヽ / ヽ_/
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Edited by Get2DaChoppa81: 2/22/2015 11:35:34 PMAtheon. He'd teleport Crota about 5 seconds in. Game over. It's not Bologna. It's what he do. And Atheon would survive an oversoul. Titans in armor of light survive. But it ends the attempt.
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Ir Yut would dominate the Gatekeeper. The Gatekeeper is very slow, despite its teleportation, while Ir Yut is quite agile. Also, Ir Yut, as she always does, can run off to a secure location and begin the Liturgy of Ruin. Unless the Gatekeeper, being extremely slow, can find her AND kill her within 30 seconds all by himself, he's screwed.
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Does crota take damage without the sword? If do, the atheon wins. His blaster is more damaging compared to crota on equal levels
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Atheons 'power' is the ability to send people through time, Atheon wins all day every day because of that.
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You can't say that all of Atheons power has been taken away.
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Edited by Alak-Hul’s Lie: 2/22/2015 5:58:17 AMLocation? I'm pulling for Atheon here since he's been nerfed in this fight. Plus he can teleport Crotas face through the sword. Would be a pretty sick fatality.
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Edited by jasperelk: 2/22/2015 5:56:11 AMIf Crota can be damaged without the sword then Crota is at a disadvantage .. When Atheon goes ham on blasting Crota then he'll stay kneeling for eternity. I'd say Ir Yut vs GK : Ir yut would be owned because there are three GKs haha
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Edited by Racebum: 2/22/2015 7:57:24 AMif you took away atheons power to open time then it would obviously be crota. atheon still can take damage from kinetic impact, crota will not. if atheon could still manipulate time he could simply warp crota to never never land
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Crota can only be permanently damaged by the Sword of Crota, which no Vex can wield, let alone use effectively. Also, to those of you saying that "Atheon can just send him into the portal and be lost in the dark corners of time", you didn't read the post. It literally reads, "no 'past, present, future' bologna". Overall, Atheon is beyond screwed.
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Atheon would win, when he opens the timesream crota will get lost in time and die, also the vex would kick the crap out of the hive any day, they're stronger, they all operate on one mind and have metal skin, plus the hive can't use the relic to kill the Templars shields and probably wouldn't know what to do if oracles appeared or if they saw a gorgon. So...yeah.
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Crota would win because he can only be killed by a sword
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Well for the it your gatekeeper the past present future thing would take place and since ir yut wouldn't be able to use the liturgy on the future or past gatekeeper those descendant hobgoblins would eventually get her. Atheon wins if Crota can't get close enough and if he uses temporal stomp fast enough(Crota probably with the whole shield thing). Minions would definitely be the supplicants since they keep coming
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Ehhh.. Randall would smash em both in a 2v1 fight
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Atheon. All he has to do is send Crota back/forward in time and it's over.