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originally posted in: Kid and Kermit Situation
2/22/2015 5:21:07 PM
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Everything. EVERYTHING you've said. idk how much clearer everything can be but ever sentence you've somehow managed to construct has come from your opinion. because this whole situation is opinion based. Some people think he's a dick others don't. something he broke ToS some don't. Opinion is everything in this whole situation. the one true fact is the kid gave control of his account to someone online he's never met and paid the consequences. Make all the posts you want but bungie will not give him his gear back. People said he's been given FOAF but it's actually false. people said kirmit was banned or suspended also false. the one true thing is the kids parents didn't care enough to take 5 minutes to learn the system they bought to babysit their kid who struggles to pronounce simple words.
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  • Edited by freshlydunbread: 2/22/2015 5:50:54 PM
    [b]First claim, in regards to the argument of whether or not victim blaming related this case to sexual assault:[/b] [quote]The acts of -blam!- and playing video games are by no means comparable. The environments and settings in which these scenarios take place are indeed comparable, warranting an [i]analogy[/i].[/quote] [b]Why it's not an opinion:[/b] It's a fact that in cases of sexual assault of a minor (also known as statutory -blam!-), an adult takes advantage of an unsuspecting and naive child. It's a fact that in this case, an Adult took advantage of an unsuspecting and naive child. It's a fact that in cases of sexual assault of a person of age, victim blaming is a common tactic used to defend the alleged perpetrator. It's a fact that in this case, victim blaming is a common tactic used to defend the alleged perpetrator. ([i]If you need to empirically verify those as fact too, I certainly will![/i]) [b]Therefor:[/b] Kermit's case is comparable with these two cases of sexual assault on the grounds that: A) An adult took advantage of an unsuspecting and naive child. B) Victim blaming is a common tactic used to defend the alleged perpetrator. [spoiler]Next I'll use [b]science[/b] to show you how this is, by definition of an [i]analogy[/i], indeed an analogy. After, I'll go over you telling me that you hope someone close to me is a victim of sexual assault [b]again[/b], just cause I really like to rub that one in![/spoiler] PPS: "but that's just, like, your opinion, man". Doesn't work here.

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  • Also kirmit didn't commit a crime. sexual assault is a crime. deleting a character is not

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  • Edited by freshlydunbread: 2/22/2015 5:51:38 PM
    I didn't say they were comparable on the grounds of repercussive ability, I just told you what grounds they're comparable on.

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  • but like I said it's not comparable. in your opinion it is. in mine it's not. see now we're back on opinions. :] sexual assault scars people sexual assault can lead to suicide sexual assault can ruin someone. This in no way can. That's like saying you can compare dying to being asleep the only difference is you wake up. Driving is the same as a car accident but in one your car isn't damaged. Stepping in a puddle is the same as swimming because you get wet either way. Victim blaming isn't only in sexual assault. ferguson Mi victim blaming. Eric Garner in NYC victim blaming.

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  • Edited by freshlydunbread: 2/22/2015 6:25:53 PM
    Are apples oranges? No! But they're certainly comparable on the grounds that they're both fruit, [b]SHOULD ONE CHOOSE TO COMPARE THEM[/b]

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  • You can't compare them based on that lol there completely different. yes they're fruit but they're both different.

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  • Edited by freshlydunbread: 2/22/2015 7:27:27 PM
    Compare: estimate, measure or note the [b]similarity[/b] or [b]dissimilarity[/b] between. Apples are not oranges, but they're comparable on the grounds that they're both fruit. Apples are not oranges, but they're comparable on the grounds that one is red and one is orange. You see, I can compare them based on whatever makes them similar or dissimilar, as that's what a [i]comparison[/i] is. Do you not know what comparison is either, Jared? Should I weave that definition into the definition of an analogy for you too???

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  • but none of those matter

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  • Edited by freshlydunbread: 2/22/2015 6:49:51 PM
    Aww come back Jared, we just want to make you Internet famous! Don't stop saying stupid things just yet!!

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  • Edited by freshlydunbread: 2/22/2015 6:41:23 PM
    I can take the 5 minutes it takes to show you why it does matter, if you'd like. I really don't mind; backing you into walls and watching you use irrelevancies as your defense as you slink away from what's actually happening here is not only entertaining for me, but also for, now 15 different people on this thread, 3 of my close friends, and soon much of /r/facepalm

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  • Edited by freshlydunbread: 2/22/2015 6:27:46 PM
    See this buddy?? This is what, in the science community, we call the [b]scientific method[/b] of using [b]empirical evidence[/b] to support claims! I'll empirically show you why this is empirical evidence that supports my claims if you really want lol, it's a 5 minute process. [quote]It's a fact that in cases of sexual assault of a minor (also known as statutory -blam!-), an adult takes advantage of an unsuspecting and naive child. It's a fact that in this case, an Adult took advantage of an unsuspecting and naive child. It's a fact that in cases of sexual assault of a person of age, victim blaming is a common tactic used to defend the alleged perpetrator. It's a fact that in this case, victim blaming is a common tactic used to defend the alleged perpetrator.[/quote] It is fact that they [b]can be compared[/b] (see: comparable) on these grounds. You can try to use semantics to make it opinion all you want, but in the end, it's my CHOICE to compare them on these grounds and your CHOICE to sift through their differences. It's by no means an opinion that they [b]ARE ABLE TO BE COMPARED[/b], CLEARLY, as they [b]HAVE JUST BEEN SUCCESSFULLY COMPARED[/b].

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  • You don't know Kermit is an adult. >opinion not only adults sexually assault other people there have been NUMEROUS cases where kids as young as 11 have been charged with sexual assault and murder.

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  • Edited by freshlydunbread: 2/22/2015 5:58:02 PM
    None of the things you just said make any of my claims less factual. I showed you why they're based in fact, and you showed me that "adults aren't the only ones who can commit sexual assault" Would you like me to show the grounds on which that scenario will relate to Kermit's scenario as well? It's a 5 minute process to use facts to empirically verify claims. And you're not doing anything to show me that they aren't facts. Also, me not knowing whether or not Kermit is an adult doesn't make anything opinion, it makes conjecture, which still literally cannot be based on opinion.

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  • Everything you said is your opinion lmao if you can't see that you need to take a debate class or something because this is terrible. stop using opinions

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