*First Speculation*
Lately my group and I have been venturing back into the Vault of Glass to attempt a discovery of a new chest. Not finding anything a long time ago, we were discouraged by the fact that we believed there wasn't anything left to be found. Then, this comment was found on Youtube... My friend sent this to me but he is unsure of the name of the video and we are now unable to find the comment. Either way, the quote that this person said, is from a Bungie employee. My friend claims to have heard of this "LRI" guy and said that he MIGHT be one of the raid designers. He does assure to me that he does work for Bungie, though. The quote/picture proof is in the link below.
http://imgur.com/u0s5vdL
On to the speculation. The quote makes mention of the chest to have "lied between future and past, but not present." As we know, the only time in between the future and past IS present. This must mean it represents something physical. We have considered this to meaning something about the portal in between the jump puzzle and atheon's room, but then my attention turned elsewhere... Whilst activating the gates to summon Atheon, I remembered how the "past" portal is on the left and the "future" portal is on the right. Then I looked in between them... That little island used for killing Atheon many times over. It COULD be considered a large pedestal. It's the only thing in between "past and future." Could this possibly be where the chest could spawn? Maybe both portals must be kept open for the entirety of the boss fight? Could it have been under our noses (literally) all along? Unfortunately after killing Atheon, we were killing instantly due to being lost in time, even though he died. We were unable to look around by even going back into the portals to look around again.
It gets better. We automatically assume that Atheon must be defeated to retrieve this chest because the quote also says "Time is broken, but it can be fixed, for people have mended it before and left without questioning, what changed." We assumed that killing Atheon will "fix" time which is why we believe something happens on that middle island block AFTER the fight.
Something that really assures this for me is that it says "for people have mended it before and left without questioning, what changed." This could mean that MANY of us have completed the VOG, but didn't look around enough to see what changed. This quote almost seems to assure that something happens AFTER the fight.
What do you guys think? Do you have hope for there to be a chest here? What are your thoughts? What else have you heard?
Here's to hoping that some people still care for the Vault of Glass. Please share what you think and spread the post so that others can see our ideas. I look forward to reading any responses!
Edit1: I also realize that the commenter says that the quote is about that "secret cave" in the jump puzzle area. The employee DID NOT say anything about that cave. He only made mention of the past and future deal. Though if it is, then maybe there must be a way to return there AFTER the atheon kill?
Edit2: Made it to Trending! :D Hearing some great ideas and suggestions
Edit3: If you want to explore sometime, I play on the Xbox 360 and the Xbox One.
*Second Speculation*
Most of us have seen that tiny hole in the side of the jump puzzle room right? If you have then I'm sure we have all thought the same thing... chest? Well I am not sure whether this was Photoshopped or is legit but my friend found a picture of a chest sitting on a little rock. Could this rock be the "pedestal" mentioned in the quote? Maybe something must be triggered to summon the chest here? Maybe there are actually two missing chests? Picture link below.
http://imgur.com/iJMC0jt
Copied From My Raid Friend: http://lzygmrs.com/destiny/vault-of-glass-includes-sixth-secret-chest/6857/
"Proof of the 6th/7th chest during the Dads of Destiny tag along live stream last week. It was confirmed by Lead World Artist: Rob Adams, and Senior Raid Designer: Gavin Irby"
And yes I know he said he misheard the question, but it was pretty straight forward. It could be just as easy that Bungie didn't actually want us to know 100%. Plus, he didn't say there wasn't anything else. There is still hope. If that Christmas post is true, then that might be some kind of proof.
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If you have a ps4, can you add me? I've searched a ton, but I need a better group
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What about those few instances when you go to exit mars or venus and you get teleported to that space wher nothing is going on no raid team or atheon has anybody explored there every time ut happens to me my first instinct is to go back through to finish the fight so ive never done it
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maybe your have to run inside the portal that atheon comes from!!
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My opinion is that you somehow have to use one of the portals during Atheons fight, but the chest itself is in the previous room, as shown in this video. Possibly that is the reason why theres that inactive portal in that room!!! http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=res8CkLbo6Q
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me and my friends have tried this when templar dies everyone runs out of the door and jumps up th steping stones, yo know the secerte way. we all can get to the plate but we cant figure out on how to get back up to the main stepping stone. we believe it is up there, we believe there is another way to active stepping stones that take you back up but we are unsure. one of my team mates sugsted a flawless raid with activing the secrete pasage on the way down from the stepping stones. we cant figure it out, i hope this help.
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LordKenny look at this dude
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If there is another chest you will need to keep atheons door open, kinda like the door chest in CE, it might only be openable from the outside.
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My personal thought. It has been mended before but people left or whatever. I think it is representing being inside the portal. After you kill the oracles on the left side, there is a spot where hobgoblins spawn during the gatekeepers encounter. So I think during Times Vengeance, there is something you do on "Mars" that does the trick. Has anyone ever had their whole team enter the left side at the same time?
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Has anyone tried not opening any other chests the full raid?
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Edited by Zazmar: 2/22/2015 11:23:01 PMOK maybe you have to keep the back door from closing. When you start the gatekeeper leave somebody on the stairs throughout that part. When Atheon starts then all 6 gather on the steps where you kill the gatekeeper. 3 get teleported so 2 can open the gate and 1 can stay on the stairs keeping the back door from closing. Rinse and repeat until atheon is dead.
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Between the jumping puzzle and atheons room if you look back up towards the puzzle you can see a white dot but when you look through scope it disappears. Always thought that was strange.
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I mean it's cool to get an extra chest but what's the point for ascendant materials?
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Edited by XtrordinarY: 2/22/2015 11:45:48 PMJust throwing some thoughts out there. - What if you use the 30 seconds of time's vengeance to explore the other gate with the relic. So if you got out the "past" gate, then open the future gate and go explore that gate in 30 seconds. - Why does Atheon spawn 3 Harpies at both gates, so also at the gate you don't have to open. So what if you keep both gates open during times vengeance while killing Atheon. I'm also wondering when do we actually fix time. Do we fix time if we kill Atheon? Did we fixed time when we killed the heart in the black garden?
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I wonder if is in the actual vault behind Atheon. Maybe it can only be grabbed while Atheon is alive & portals open.
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Very interesting. Would love to find out
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Updated with the second speculation.
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Does the door in the back of the room open after atheon is dead?
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Very liable, maybe something spawns at the back where Atheon comes from, seems like a big area just for him to spawn
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Where it says about time can be fixed, I think that refers to the timer when u get ur super, a vengeance I think it's called and where it says people have been here before, is referring to guardians that died there, one survived and made his light into the relic, part of the story that can be found in the grimoire cards, not actual players. Hopefully this makes sense to you, I am writing this whilst falling asleep. Oh and about the time thing, notice the time for unlimited supers after u beat atheon stays around 23 seconds for a while? Hope this helps you in some way! Would love to help search the VOG of u ever need a hand
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Bump.
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My friend even just said that maybe the glass structure that Atheon comes out of could be "in between" past and future. The quotes mentions it "used" to being there. Maybe if the portals are activated again something is trigger... or spawns...?