*First Speculation*
Lately my group and I have been venturing back into the Vault of Glass to attempt a discovery of a new chest. Not finding anything a long time ago, we were discouraged by the fact that we believed there wasn't anything left to be found. Then, this comment was found on Youtube... My friend sent this to me but he is unsure of the name of the video and we are now unable to find the comment. Either way, the quote that this person said, is from a Bungie employee. My friend claims to have heard of this "LRI" guy and said that he MIGHT be one of the raid designers. He does assure to me that he does work for Bungie, though. The quote/picture proof is in the link below.
http://imgur.com/u0s5vdL
On to the speculation. The quote makes mention of the chest to have "lied between future and past, but not present." As we know, the only time in between the future and past IS present. This must mean it represents something physical. We have considered this to meaning something about the portal in between the jump puzzle and atheon's room, but then my attention turned elsewhere... Whilst activating the gates to summon Atheon, I remembered how the "past" portal is on the left and the "future" portal is on the right. Then I looked in between them... That little island used for killing Atheon many times over. It COULD be considered a large pedestal. It's the only thing in between "past and future." Could this possibly be where the chest could spawn? Maybe both portals must be kept open for the entirety of the boss fight? Could it have been under our noses (literally) all along? Unfortunately after killing Atheon, we were killing instantly due to being lost in time, even though he died. We were unable to look around by even going back into the portals to look around again.
It gets better. We automatically assume that Atheon must be defeated to retrieve this chest because the quote also says "Time is broken, but it can be fixed, for people have mended it before and left without questioning, what changed." We assumed that killing Atheon will "fix" time which is why we believe something happens on that middle island block AFTER the fight.
Something that really assures this for me is that it says "for people have mended it before and left without questioning, what changed." This could mean that MANY of us have completed the VOG, but didn't look around enough to see what changed. This quote almost seems to assure that something happens AFTER the fight.
What do you guys think? Do you have hope for there to be a chest here? What are your thoughts? What else have you heard?
Here's to hoping that some people still care for the Vault of Glass. Please share what you think and spread the post so that others can see our ideas. I look forward to reading any responses!
Edit1: I also realize that the commenter says that the quote is about that "secret cave" in the jump puzzle area. The employee DID NOT say anything about that cave. He only made mention of the past and future deal. Though if it is, then maybe there must be a way to return there AFTER the atheon kill?
Edit2: Made it to Trending! :D Hearing some great ideas and suggestions
Edit3: If you want to explore sometime, I play on the Xbox 360 and the Xbox One.
*Second Speculation*
Most of us have seen that tiny hole in the side of the jump puzzle room right? If you have then I'm sure we have all thought the same thing... chest? Well I am not sure whether this was Photoshopped or is legit but my friend found a picture of a chest sitting on a little rock. Could this rock be the "pedestal" mentioned in the quote? Maybe something must be triggered to summon the chest here? Maybe there are actually two missing chests? Picture link below.
http://imgur.com/iJMC0jt
Copied From My Raid Friend: http://lzygmrs.com/destiny/vault-of-glass-includes-sixth-secret-chest/6857/
"Proof of the 6th/7th chest during the Dads of Destiny tag along live stream last week. It was confirmed by Lead World Artist: Rob Adams, and Senior Raid Designer: Gavin Irby"
And yes I know he said he misheard the question, but it was pretty straight forward. It could be just as easy that Bungie didn't actually want us to know 100%. Plus, he didn't say there wasn't anything else. There is still hope. If that Christmas post is true, then that might be some kind of proof.
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Back when this game launched I believed bungie had all these secrets built in. I think the quotes and grimoire represents what they wanted to do. Sadly I think the reality is that there is nothing more and that VOG is incomplete but has lore that leaves speculation ongoing. I think destiny represents some grand ideas that weren't completed. VOG is one of them. If you don't believe me just travel the world of areas all over that look like they were meant for something but went completely unused. Naturally I want to believe that it is one grand puzzle like you suggest but over the last 5 months I have come to realize there is nothing hidden below the surface. Hope I'm wrong....
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Edited by JoebAKL: 2/23/2015 12:03:41 AMAlright so the other day my team was speed killing Atheon checkpoint to finish the grimiore, we were playing on easy and finished 15 Atheons before we finished. Anyways... I was using my vex, when we got sent to the past I grabbed the shield, I killed the three hobs easy, oracles were all killed we came out and blasted Atheon, I think I recall killing Atheon with the shield super, and then holding the cleanse on me to celebrate while he died. After a player left to get his alternate again to get the checkpoint going and a few people went to orbit to wait. I stayed and 2 others, and we ran around. 1 of them died, and I went into the past portal. The dead one was 3rd person viewing me. As I walked around the past. The funny thing though... There was no darkness effect on me... At all No going blind, at all Anyways in the past portal I went to the "Atheon spawn area" nothing special. I went to the back door and tried things, nothing special. I went to the future portal that is broken in the past. I noticed the white particles flowing in the machine work underneath the ground. After some time, Times Vengeance effect came over me! I ran to the back door but still nothing. Well the guy who was alive left the game. And then I started to go blind. As it went totally dark I started taking damage and soon died. Then it went to a loading screen, for a good 5 mins (slow 360 network) as we were waiting the dead guy got impatient and left. Then the after screen with stats came up, I didn't get any rewards :/ I'm pretty sure it's a portal puzzle and a team should be able to figure it out. I'm on 360 if anyone is up to try
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In between past and future. = Present Only hint: Merry Christmas. = Presents People have fixed it before (people have gotten the chest before), what has changed? = Time Has The "Spirit Bloom" chest contains special, exclusive items on Christmas Day.
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Has anyone tried to activate the jumping puzzle then go back to the Gorgon Maze to see if anything has changed? All 6 guardians have to be present before the jumping puzzle to start it. Maybe there are floating platforms near the gorgons...
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Has anyone beaten Atheon without activating Times Vengence? I know if all members of your team exit the portals without killing the oracles inside, you won't die but TV won't activate.
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Who said something about a chest between past and present. I need a link or exact quote. You need to read between the lines with these -blam!-ers.
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Photo and location of hidden chest or it didn't happen
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I LOVE reading these type of posts. Bump!
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So much work... All just to get 2 ascendant materials.
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Maybe after you beat Atheon you have to run all the way through the VoG back to the beginning instead of going to orbit? Maybe there is a chest sitting right in front of the vault door? Lol
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Edited by TheElf452: 2/23/2015 12:27:06 AMI honestly doubt it but could the "times vengeance" mean that time is literally seeking out its revenge for being manipulated. By this I mean say you come form one portal what if during times vengeance, the small amount of time allotted to us we have to go inside the other portal and search for a 6th chest. Seems like something cryptic and annoying bungie would do to us all. This could also mean that it isn't the past, present nor future, just an idea.
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When in the hall after the jumping puzzle before the gatekeeper, look up. There is what looks like a walkway. Maybe this is a different way to get to Atheon, and maybe it has the extra chest. Now the question is, how would you get up there?
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proof of the 6th/7th chest during the Dads of Destiny tag along live stream last week. It was confirmed by Lead World Artist: Rob Adams, and Senior Raid Designer: Gavin Irby
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I bet it has something to do with the portal at the end of the floating platform stage after gorgon. I swear I've seeing it open a few times and then shut. Maybe you have to speed run Gordon's or something?
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Need 4 people normal Vog gatekeeper checkpoint
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Edited by tacticalweapon1: 2/23/2015 12:30:13 AMHere's my thoughts: there are no more chests in VoG and you guys are freaking out over Destiny's version of herobrine.
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Comment please so I can revisit.
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I bet it has something to do with the portal at the end of the floating platform stage after gorgon. I swear I've seeing it open a few times and then shut. Maybe you have to speed run Gordon's or something?
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I don't believe a word of this... Thousands of players have been over that vault with fine tooth comb and found nothing... Every combination of tactics including 2 manning the raid and not dying the whole way though has been tried. They will say anything to keep interest in their tired, old, broken ass raid... Don't believe the trolls.
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During the spire, there's a dead portal under the middle sync plate... Does this have any secret to it? Does it have anything to do with the dead portal during the jump puzzle
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Don't know if this has been attempted but why not have someone with radiance die out of the vault before Atheon spawns and then when Atheon is about to die use radiance and see if anything changes outside
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Love a good vog treasure hunt
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I found a basic loot chest in the very first part (spire). I hope that isn't the extra chest
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What happens if you go inside the portal that your team members did not get teleported to?
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If you have a ps4, can you add me? I've searched a ton, but I need a better group