That's all well and good. You defeat A the on your way and we will defeat him our way. I've been running VOG since it began and the groups I run with always use guns. It's a perfectly efficient method. I've never ran with a group that says. " Hey guy's only use your supers on Atheon, using guns is a dumbass way to do it.". F-ing idiot why didn't I think of that. I can just run up and use my fist of havoc on him. Don't know why I would use a perfectly good sniper rifle, machine gun, or rocket launcher on him. What a noob move.