I can kill people in 2 headshots with my timurs lash also puts the thorn users to sleep fast. Same with thorn. I dnt hav a problem cuz if i feel its gettin bad ill pull out my maxed thorn. But my weapons do jus fine. Im a crucible king. Ill use any weapon and do great with it wen i get the necrochasm i guarentee ill still go on rampages. My aim is true and thats all u really got to have. If ur aim sucks then ur guna get outgunned by whoever is better. The pvp is skill based like halo. If u dont hit the head everytime somebody that does is guna murder u. Point blank