Please be smarter than me and spend your money on something else because I cant hit anything with this pos. My favorite weapon in the game for PVP is TLW. Based on TDYDs stats (high rate of fire/stability) I thought it could be a decent backup for when I wanted an exotic special or heavy. However, it seems like this is one of the most inaccurate guns of any class I have used, its literally losing gun fights for me. I didn't realize the Clown Cartridge perk only grants ONE extra bullet IF it procs, and at a base mag of 5 rounds, this isn't a significant difference. I feel terrible when I think about other people spending their marks/commendations on this gun so do me a favor and don't. thanks TLDR : don't buy TDYD hand cannon edit: guess this thread is obsolete now with the expansion comin out tomorrow, thx for everyone's input. ;)