Hi @DeeJ Firstly, thank you guys for changing Xur's inventory. I kind of enjoy the secret (even if I shout expletives on Friday if NLB's are on sale). Now to the topic which has bothered me for quite a while. I am a Destiny lover, I have loved each minute, each second, each kill & each hour of farming on it. Although - I dont put 4-5hrs daily in the game - I dont have multiple characters - I am not a regular follower of forums such as Reddit etc where Destinites flock - I joined the Destiny family a bit late - By the time I learned about raiding, the Destinites had already moved on. So a L26 VOG had actually become a relic of the past which no one wants to touch especially with a noob now since the time taken to clear would increase. - I have made many friends, but now since everything has moved on - no one is kind of going to go through the raid grind again or carry a noob. Plus it is already hard to find one player like that - the raid requires us to find 5! - Most of the players now have their own raider groups, and those who are as open as me now dont have any 4-5hr regular pro help us So that made me wonder and hence ask you - Does that make us what is called "Bottom of the pit" players? - Is it that you guys have designed the game in a way that those who cant spend the said amount of time & cant find groups of 6 and need help to learn some aspects of the game languish at the bottom and make up the RNG numbers so that the top ones get better items (although I have no clue how this RNG works or even if this point is relevant to that debate, but hope you would get the sentiment) - And this means we will never get any elemental damage primaries as apart from Raids, there is no other way to get those. - So by the extension, we will also never be able to do Nightfalls faster since all higher level enemies would have elemental shields and both secondaries have a limitation of ammo. So will be less likelier to get any exotic. Plus even if we do...guess what...it wont be an elemental primary - This also means elemental primaries are only reserved for those who can put up a 6 man raid squad experienced enough to get it through and they can get as many as they want to dismantle - And anyone who likes to go solo or doesnt have a way to get 5 people (with 2-3 good exp porters) help out on a raid can pretty much forget seeing an elemental primary in his/her vault or inventory If your answer to any or all of the above points is "Yes" Then tell us what should we do in Destiny now since from the angle I am looking at it, unless I start playing 5-6hrs and go through a grind to find 5 willing souls ready to help out - we will always be the "Bottom of the Pit"? So should we quit? I am not asking for Xur to sell Galleys or Suros, I can grind and get it. It is not a question about exotics. Cant there be another way to get elemental primaries, even if it means its slightly harder but achievable with a fireteam of 3? Cant there be pawning allowed between players, so instead of dismantling their 7th or 8th Vex, someone can give it out? Cant the sellers sell it. Well if Iron Banner can sell L32 armor, cant there be a seller who sells Elemental primaries? Cant raids be matchmaking? Cant certain steps in raid be available in parts on matchmaking? If anyone else out there has the same sentiments, please tag yourself in the comments. @DeeJ - would be great if you could discuss your views on this