Explain why golden gun doesn't benefit from Time's vengeance then, only useful super for that is defender titan for WoL or Nova Bomb for supplicant control Edit: oh i forgot to mention, my black hammer does 18k per hit with WoL and three crits resets its mag, so thats 54k per mag, average 4 mags that's 216k with 4 people (the guyswho i raid with most have max black hammers) that's 864k, one guy on supplicant control, and the relic holder, plus 2 people typically hit Atheon when the rest are destroying oracles, doing a good deal of damage. TL;DR you're a dumbass for believing supers do more damage to Atheon.