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3/14/2015 5:22:27 AM
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To @DeeJ from a Destiny lover
Hi @DeeJ
Firstly, thank you guys for changing Xur's inventory. I kind of enjoy the secret (even if I shout expletives on Friday if NLB's are on sale).
Now to the topic which has bothered me for quite a while.
I am a Destiny lover, I have loved each minute, each second, each kill & each hour of farming on it.
Although
- I dont put 4-5hrs daily in the game
- I dont have multiple characters
- I am not a regular follower of forums such as Reddit etc where Destinites flock
- I joined the Destiny family a bit late
- By the time I learned about raiding, the Destinites had already moved on. So a L26 VOG had actually become a relic of the past which no one wants to touch especially with a noob now since the time taken to clear would increase.
- I have made many friends, but now since everything has moved on - no one is kind of going to go through the raid grind again or carry a noob. Plus it is already hard to find one player like that - the raid requires us to find 5!
- Most of the players now have their own raider groups, and those who are as open as me now dont have any 4-5hr regular pro help us
So that made me wonder and hence ask you
- Does that make us what is called "Bottom of the pit" players?
- Is it that you guys have designed the game in a way that those who cant spend the said amount of time & cant find groups of 6 and need help to learn some aspects of the game languish at the bottom and make up the RNG numbers so that the top ones get better items (although I have no clue how this RNG works or even if this point is relevant to that debate, but hope you would get the sentiment)
- And this means we will never get any elemental damage primaries as apart from Raids, there is no other way to get those.
- So by the extension, we will also never be able to do Nightfalls faster since all higher level enemies would have elemental shields and both secondaries have a limitation of ammo. So will be less likelier to get any exotic. Plus even if we do...guess what...it wont be an elemental primary
- This also means elemental primaries are only reserved for those who can put up a 6 man raid squad experienced enough to get it through and they can get as many as they want to dismantle
- And anyone who likes to go solo or doesnt have a way to get 5 people (with 2-3 good exp porters) help out on a raid can pretty much forget seeing an elemental primary in his/her vault or inventory
If your answer to any or all of the above points is "Yes"
Then tell us what should we do in Destiny now since from the angle I am looking at it, unless I start playing 5-6hrs and go through a grind to find 5 willing souls ready to help out - we will always be the "Bottom of the Pit"?
So should we quit?
I am not asking for Xur to sell Galleys or Suros, I can grind and get it. It is not a question about exotics.
Cant there be another way to get elemental primaries, even if it means its slightly harder but achievable with a fireteam of 3?
Cant there be pawning allowed between players, so instead of dismantling their 7th or 8th Vex, someone can give it out?
Cant the sellers sell it. Well if Iron Banner can sell L32 armor, cant there be a seller who sells Elemental primaries?
Cant raids be matchmaking?
Cant certain steps in raid be available in parts on matchmaking?
If anyone else out there has the same sentiments, please tag yourself in the comments.
@DeeJ - would be great if you could discuss your views on this
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Red death was just sold. Exotic? Yes. Primary? Yes. Burn? Well... Yes! Even the day one players started at the bottom. We've all font through a raid for the first time. Everyone has been in this situation. Most of us have used the threads to find a group to take us along, or find other bodies to bring in. Realistically, it isn't the games fault, or the designers manipulating late start players to stay "bottom of the Pitt". Its simply, for a lit if us, next gen consoles. I have so many friends on 360 and ps3 that haven't taken the plunge forward yet. Hell I don't even have a PS4 yet. So the few friends I have on xb1 we try to get together and raid. Schedules don't always mesh though. I have numerous " randoms" on my list. I'll send them a message from time to time to see if they want to fill an empty slot on a raid. One "random" has actually become a decent internet friend and we usually end up knocking out our weekly duties together with a mix of his friends and mine. Then you branch out getting to know their friends and before you know it, you'll have a regular raid group together. As far as learning the raids, think of i t like this. Some raid team had to be the first ones in. The first to reach the next checkpoint. The first to conquer it. I'm what's called a "Christmas noob". I'm alright with that. I have time vested. I'm well versed in raids and know what needs to happen to succeed, but the disappointing aspect to me, is I was shown what to do. Told what was happening and why. To me, that lessened the experience. When HoW comes out, I have my raid group set for our first steps inside. We're gonna figure it out, and this time I'll be part of the exploration. Simply put, all games are what you make of them. The tools are there to make friends and succeed. You just have to be willing to use them and not expect everything to be given so easily because you choose not to apply yourself. This is in no way to out you down or belittle you. If you were on xb1, I would be more than willing to put aside some time with my clan and walk you through. Show you the ins and outs, dos and don'ts. There are people out there more than willing to help. I still have many exotics to gain, so it wouldn't harm me at all to bring someone along for mutual benefit. Keep your head up guardian. A positive attitude, and a little will, can take you a long way.
