It's hard to toss around the word or abbreviation "OP" properly in a game filled with so many cheap ways to get killed but many think Felwinter's Lie is this super OP shottie/sniper that ruins PVP. I do die by it often but since I prefer to stick with teammates it's rare to see Felwinter's go on a killing spree due to its poor ROF. So I ask: Is Felwinter's lie flawed and overpowered or balanced by its slow ROF? Thoughts?
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Way op, but I just got one and maxed it out . Can't wait to test it
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Best sniper in the game
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With hammer forged and shot package, it's a sniper.
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With the right perks, yes, it's OP. I have it, but don't use it. Shotguns are for CoD scrubs.
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Definitely OP! The only thing that ever really needed a Nerf in this game..
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The only reason people find it OP is because you can re-roll it to try and get good range, if every shot gun had the ability to re-roll then I'm sure every shot gun would be running similar stats.
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Nope. Unless every single bullet hits its target it won't kill. Also the fact that if you don't kill the person right away the pump takes forever. So if you don't kill someone in the first shot your basically dead. Also felwinters does not have insane range. It has better range than most shotguns yes, but those ranges still end up in just hit markers. And to compensate for this it has a slow pump, slow reload, and insane recoil. So it ha sits ups and downs but in the end it is not overpowered. (Unless you are a god at aiming perfectly in a gunfight)
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If you're not good with a shotty, you will die a lot. It's not skill, it's all about timing. The ROF is terrible, if you don't time it right, the opponent will own you before you even hit them.
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It's pretty easy to counter especially when bad kids slide at me with it, by the time they get close they're dead <3 my mida
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Edited by SnazzySquid: 3/23/2015 2:24:20 PMI dunno, I think it works as intended. It allows the person with quicker reflexes to win the fight, but also leaves you vulnerable if you try to fire too early. Because so many people have Felwinter's Lie there is a game of shotgun chicken going on sometimes, where i'll win because I fired after their shot fell short. On the other hand, I've been outdone by Found Verdict, Swordbreaker and Secret Handshake because of rate of fire.
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Something to take into mind is a lot of people mistake Felwinter with every shotgun. They get killed by a shotgun and right away it's a Felwinter. I use Hide and Seek lately when the other team is using scrub tactics and a couple of times they messaged me asking what roll my Felwinter was. In my opinion Hide and Seek is overall better.
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Not OP. Miss your shot and your dead.
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Felwinter's excels in one on one, but really falls off when dealing with two or more enemies in CQC thanks to its poor RoF. The only perk that natively buffs it's RoF is full auto, which cuts the ammo dump time in half. The issue with this perk is you are loosing out on shot package. I think it's fine as is. There are natural trade offs for the incredibly high impact. The only combo which could be considered OP is shot package + hammer forged. Even the Vanguard shotty has this roll and despite having a lower overall impact, can still kill a Felwinter user just as easily.
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Felwinter is just OP with Agressive Ballistics, Hammerforged and Shot Package. If it doesn't have all three, Found Verdict i.e. is better.
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I think its is fine, shotguns are a situational weapon that rewards the ability to get close. Other shotguns with high rof are better than it in certain situations. (found verdict, invective, etc) To beat shot guns, players should zone shotgun users at mid range and not chase shotgun users around corners. Also be able to predict the slide so you can adjust aim down to the head when they slide.
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Stupid people make this shotgun or any shotgun in general "OP" because I know they will rush me and die swiftly. If I had two to the morgue I can promise you that I will clear a room out of people if they rush me. Honestly some people just don't know how to adapt so they come crying here for nerfs or how this or that gun is "OP" Any gun is "OP" in the right hands
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Nah this community just needs another thing to complain about. What a bunch of pussies waaaaaaaaah \_/
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I have it and don't have the obvious perks that make it seem like a go to and stay with gun....I'l stick with TLW
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It's a rumble match shotgun got void and solar one drop for an thorn bounty from IB so thanks iron banner
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Got killed by a full auto felwinter
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Only thing that made it OP was the ability to reroll it for desirable perks. Other shotguns are stuck with whatever they drop with. Oh, and the fact that mine has hammer forged and shot package to compliment its high range TOTALLY doesn't make this a god weapon [spoiler]Please don't nerf it Please[/spoiler]
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Edited by MrSkeenss: 3/23/2015 2:02:30 PMNah totally not OP. ... totally...i swear...