Bump. Let's all keep in mind that the nerf was NOT 2.5%. Maybe it was somehere near that with terrible high rof,low impact guns but slower rof/higher impact guns were indeed nerfed 11to13%. People have done the math. There was data compiled with the real pre/post patch damage numbers for vanquisher,suros and others. Wish i would've saved a link to one of the threads. Did bungie just have a "whoops" moment and leave the "1" out? Maybe they meant a 12.5% reduction in damage lmfao I like my abyss defiant but wonder what it could really be if they finally separate pve and pvp guns. They will do this eventually and what i would imagine is having a pvp exclusive, standard load out to choose from before the match. All this bullshit could finally stop and we wouldn't have to worry about the 2 worlds(pvp and pve) coexisting, or rather, completely fuking each other up.