[quote]Spartan IV: adults who had been given the choice to join. ( not kidnapped) they are still augmented as well but since they had normal lives instead of being trained from age six, they are much more relatable. They question orders and are much LESS affective on the battlefield.these Spartans consist of Sara palmer, buck, romeo, and all the Spartans in spartan ops.[/quote] They were still chosen from the elite of the elite of the army. They weren't just some random people they found off the streets, they still knew about discipline, military authority, etc.