My clan is doing fine, but it's been around pre-Destiny in other games. I just met them this year, but they are pretty awesome people. I have about 20 people who I know well and another 30 I've met through LFG. I have between 10-20 online at any given time and usually 40-ish on Tuesdays and a fair amount on weekends. So, I guess it depends on who your friends are. My cousin is one of the people on my friends list. He played until The Dark Below and then quit, he said he'd be back after HoW, so he wouldn't have his progress reset again for a while. The game is also in a lull between "expansions." The same thing happens in most online games, when the content grows stale, most people only show up for reset day and some PVP. You'll see your friends list full on HoW release day (you'll probably see everything leggy as fook as well). We all treat Destiny like it's an MMO. But we forget that it's a semi-casual shooter for teens with limited playtime. Bungie clearly misread their audience and gave us content for ADD kids and not OCD adults with a fetish for collecting exotics. HoW is around the corner though, we'll be at it again soon enough. My bigger concern is the huge gap before the comet expansion... If Bungie leaves us all hanging with another TDB for 6+ months, a lot of people will be upset. They probably won't quit though. Anyway, I gotta get back to farming blood echos... *shakes fist at Bloodborne* And yes, you can go play other games, it won't hurt Bungie's feelings. EDIT: Bungie really needs to do something to liven up PVP. It's what the PVP folks do all the time and what the PVE players do when they've got all their gear. Without a more attractive/fun PVP game, numbers will slip a lot in the lulls. I probably won't PVP regardless, but I know most people would.