Actually I thought your post was a relatively well thought out formative analysis, and in that regard I would tend to agree with you purely empirically though. Which is of course mainly based in the Crucible only. However, I tend to disagree somewhat, in that they are marginally OP and 'generally' (not exclusively) used by people who like to spam Arc-Blade as well as extend that shit well beyond normal realms of reasonability. Then again, you give a V/W Warlock Obs^Mind + Bad-Juju = a maelstrom of bad-ass-ness. I've not read any other posts yet, although generally speaking the Warlock class is perhaps the most versatile of the 3 classes, which is NOT to say better or superior in any way...merely their flexibility has used due to their lack of speciality. Yet that mainly refers to PVE and not PVP. Invariably though I can see this going down quickly into the realms of "hey F@#% you...Hunter Master Race Yo" type of direction if one is but to look at the majority of posts, additionally this is an unfortunate let down for those who wish to have a higher level of discussion. This should be an interesting debate/ discussion...one that has been beaten like so many dead horses, we could make dog food for the redneck republican elites lol - j/k.