this happened to me once while running relic on Templar ( btw I am very experienced using the relic and was the "relic guy" before bungie add the random teleport at atheon. Random1: so who is gonna take the relic Me: I'll do it if thats ok with you all Random1: sure go ahead man Random2: but he's 30 ... Random1: YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE 32 TO HOLD RELIC ! and then he kept on how level don't matter while I was bossing the templar and keeping him from teleporting . I think the both of us managed to really convince the rest of the group that level doesn't really matter in VOG as long as you're above 30