The same raid? Everyone was hoping for a new raid, New shit to investigate with your fireteam, new adventure. I'd rather play hordes on Gears than whatever survival mode we receive from destiny. Trying to be optimistic but waves are NOTHING we haven't seen in EVERY other game. Appreciate the thought of changing it up, and I do like that notion, but any serious destiny player needs a damn raid. As long as it's released at some point. Don't just leave the thing out to adhere to your minority population of pvp players who CANT raid. Sorry for the long post I haven't ranted about all the news yet as i am just hearing about it.