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4/26/2015 6:19:46 PM
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Yeah I guess it is everywhere lol. I hate it tbh, but I guess it's how the world is. I'm not gonna agree with your comment on guns though, I can't understand how they are legal in the US in the way they are. At least here a toddler can't shoot his own mum....
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Well I can tell you the history behind why guns are legal. In summation it's because the founders knew that the only way to keep a government from "ruling" it's citizens was to keep them afraid of them (ie American Revolution). The reality of this today is not as applicable as it once was since the Government has access to a lot more weaponry that the populous does, but that isn't to say that their original argument isn't valid. A dictator or military oppression would theoretically have to kill millions (gun owners) in America to gain "control." In countries where there is no true means of resistance the numbers would be much less. But to your comment about a toddler let me ask you this. A toddler who gets into their parents car and puts the vehicle in neutral thereby having the car roll over their sibling, should we ban cars? Of course not. It was irresponsible parenting that let to this event. Or a chef who had a myriad of knives leaves them out and his child gets one and stabs their sibling. Should knives be banned? Of course not. It was due I irresponsible parenting. I believe that gun death specifically due to negligence is ignored and used as a talking point for taking away guns rather than what it should be. WHY ARE WE NOT HOLDING PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS? (Sorry pet peve). Seriously though, if a parent left out their gun, knife, lighter, ammonia, etc why it is the items fault an not the parents? Rather than taking away things I believe we should be holding people more responsible for their actions. Look at Switzerland. They have the highest gun ownership per capita probably of every country (maybe not US though). And you don't hear about their staggering gun death rate. Why? Well I have some theories as to that, but more to the point gun ownership doesn't seem to be a problem there.
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There's so many problems with Americas gun laws though, you can buy them at god dam Walmart, but they can't ban them now because everyone already owns one criminals can easily steal a gun get someone else to buy it for them, get one at a gun show ect who the hell do civilians need to shoot at ? Arming them just promotes criminals to shoot first and ask questions later aswell as ensure the second they pull that gun out there shooting everyone they don't wanna risk getting shot. in England we have brutal murders in America schools/malls/offices get massacred ever wonder why? Your entire nation is desensitised to guns which is a bad thing in England if your seen with anything reassembleing a gun armed police are phoned and if they see your armed you'll be shot , if guns where regulated it'd also make your polices job far easier and countless young black guys would be alive today your police expect everyone to be armed and will shoot to kill if people flinch while being questioned. America really needs to sort it's gun laws out it's an atrocity that there gun crime is comparable to Jamaica, Nigeria , Honduras and Sierra Leon
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I've actually lived in switzerland so know about their customs. The gun laws are not as lenient there as people think. Higher gun ownership than other European countries is likely down to the fact they still have mandatory subscription. Additionally the number of guns per 100 people in switzerland is less than 50% (according to this article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21379912) that in the US. Yeah I've heard the argument about the founders, but I was gonna say what you just said in that today the population has no chance against the army. About the toddler - that is a far more contrived way for the kid to kill his parents than pulling a trigger. It's about how easy it is. Yes holding people responsible for their actions, but really why all this fuss when having gun regulation would solve a lot of these issues. As you've said the original argument for having them is now unfounded, why not just get rid of them? What do you gain by having them?
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The loss of freedom. It boils down to the more we are controlled and the less we can do/have the less free we are. I do not believe anyone is better than anyone and that no one has the right to tell anyone else how to live. If you are not committing a crime against another and taking away their liberty what right does anyone have to tell someone what they can or cannot have. Regarding the founders. It's not the fact of having weaponry to match the government. At this point it's the fact that the government would willingly and knowingly have to kill millions of people who are armed in order to gain compliance. If America did not have any means of defense there would barely be thousands killed to force compliance. Again I ask. Are we free? Do you feel free? I may not feel as free as those who lived in 1776 but I know one thing. I want to be free. And the only way to help the citizenry is to arm them. Look at all the "great" empires of the world that span time, the one constant is they did not allow their populous to be armed. That way the government had nothing to fear.
