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Those countries have never been free. At least not as free until recently. They have always been ruled by one person (dictator), monarchs, oligarchs and the like. They have been told from the time of their existence that having any means of self defense is evil and bad. I'm sorry but no one is better than anyone else. We all have equal value. Kings and peasants are the same. And this is coming from a non-spiritual, non-religious, agnostic. And yes the laws should be up to the people. That is what a constitutional republic is. It is the people (representatives) who decide what laws they support. The constitution specifically lays out that the states have the power to govern themselves. The one size fits all governance of the federal government isn't how this country was founded.
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  • You realise America is a young country right? And parliament was established in the UK before America's existence? So technically we have been free longer than you have? Almost 100 years longer in fact... Where the did you pull that ridiculous statement from? And yes, Kings and peasants are equal, I don't think you will find many people here who disagree with that. Tbh based upon that one statement it sounds more to me like you have been slightly brainwashed to believe we are less free? I certainly don't feel less free... I DO feel less safe going to the US knowing there are people who own guns though. Me owning a gun wouldn't make me feel as safe as knowing they are illegal. Why the hell should I have to gamble my life on whether I can pull the trigger faster or not? At least if someone has a knife I can run the -blam!- away. Yes laws should be up to the people, but the people also need to not be ignorant to make well thought out decisions. Your statement about freedom was pretty ignorant. You are ignoring what is staring you in the face - access to guns inevitably increases gun crimes and homicides. It's not about having a means of defence being evil. It is about what is best for everyone and ensuring other peoples liberty to own a gun isn't used to infringe upon other people's freedom. You realise a handgun's ONLY purpose is to kill right? We are arguing about whether it should be legal to own something that is designed to kill a human being. Oh and I am also a non-spiritual, non-religious, agnostic and a scientist by profession...

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  • I hope you will too, but I will agree to disagree. Obviously we are rooted in our opinions. And I appreciate the conversation to allow me to challenge my opinions. I have a separate question though. How do you feel about a royal family still in existence in the UK living off of the money that they (their ancestors) took from the populous of the UK?

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  • Agreed. I appreciate the debate too. It's interesting to hear what someone from the US actually thinks. OK the royal family - don't get me started lol. I am completely against the monarchy for reasons I stated before - a King and peasant are equal. No one should have that boost in life just because of where they are born, and it sure as hell shouldn't be supported by the state. Opinions are pretty split here though, some people think they bring in a lot from tourism, but it's heavily debatable to as whether we break even on them or not.

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  • That is interesting. I never thought about the "tourism" aspect. Ironically enough it's probably Americans who are the ones visiting for the purpose of seeing the royal family. The universe or at least earth has to have a sense of humor.

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  • Lol yeah that's actually true. For some reason you guys seem to love them. Other people also say they help with public relations. Again that is debatable though....

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  • I would argue they help with debate like the Kennedy's, Clinton's or Bushs help.....not much. But who says America doesn't have royals. Haha. Sad state of affairs my friend. Good day.

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  • Lol yeah exactly... Ah well. Maybe one day. Nice talking to you.

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