You guys always say its not the gun, but its the player's fault. I disagree. This gun can put the best crucible player to the ground with 2 headshots. This gun IS overpowered and you thorners just don't want it nerfed.
If you want to flame me for not being good in crucible, go ahead. Idc, my skill is higher than yours anyway. I still have to see an flamer with a higher kd here...
Edit: all these scrubs flaming don't want their thorn nerfed.... ;)
Edit: most of you guys could only whine about 'lucky' headshots, so i changed that.
Yet another Edit: i'm not saying that the thorn owns me, i outgun them 80% of the time. But that doesn't take away the fact that its too powerful. A simple stability or range nerf should suffice.
Again, Edit: wow how has this reached 500+ replies? I'm truly honored by all you flaming bastards who just keep flaming. For those who agree with me, thank you :)
Edit: going straight for the 1000 replies! Please keep flaming or replying! Thank you in advance, i am calling it the night for now.
Edit: just made the 1000 replies in [b]1 DAY[/b] thanks to all the flamers and other people! Really appreciate it!
Edit: Damn this post has been bashed on. The hate is real! I'm just putting down my opinion and some facts, get over it. Also, my skill actually has nothing to do with the stats of the thorn, its crazy right?
Edit: post just hit 1500+
Thats all. Nuff said.
Check out Tiny Baby Jesus's reply, it sums up the thorn.
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Timurs lash is a two shot headshot kill, wanna nerf that?
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the reason everybody hates getting killed by thorn is because it is pretty much the only gun you know exactly what it is when you get hit. over the last iron banner i got killed by a variety of guns, whether it was thorn, hawkmoon, last word, vex, mida, shotguns, snipers, red death, bad juju, suros etc. yeah more people are using hand cannons over the rest but at least its not like before the auto rifle nerf where every body used auto rifles. i really dont mind they way it is now, yeah auto rifles could use a little buff to get them competitive again, but i used suros a little this iron and it wasnt bad, also people are keeping their distance between enemies more so not as many shotguns to the face. I think this is more the way bungie wants crucible it be where people are using a variety of weapons. i didnt even touch my thorn, i mainly used my vex hawkmmon or suros with sniper or shotgun
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Don't have it nerfed it'll nerf all hand cannons. But instead make armor that is burn resistant or turn our useless capes and shit into shit like that
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Yea next you'll be the one whining about trip mines or shoulder charge just because you can't deal with it
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Why do people think it two shots? It three shots just like any other hand cannon. The Dot is what kills you, and I don't think most thorn users rely on it anyways cause I sure don't. As far as I'm concerned, mark of the devourer makes sure you can't run away from a fight without taking damage. People who let the dot do the work are the ones that's the problem, so it's not the gun but the user.
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I'm don't think thorn needs a nerf and I would be okay with a nerf cause I don't use it but rather thorn being nerfed how about autorifles being buffed so they could be competitive with hand cannons and not having to worry on nerfing all weapons to oblivion.
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Actually no. If the worst person out there gets thorn, they are still gonna suck. If they have bad aim then they probably aren't even gonna hit your targets.
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Nerf thorn nooooowwww
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It needs a small nerf to rate of fire and range but only a small one. Nothing enough to kill the gun.
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Thorn is OP but 2-5 head shots from a hand canon should ALWAYS be a kill. Anything else is unrealistic.
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Mmmm kay :/
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Edited by IS0M0RPHIC: 5/5/2015 12:53:27 AMThey don't want the thorn nerfed because there's barely anything left to use that actually does a decent amount of damage, and you don't think people won't just find the next op weapon to use after it gets possibly nerfed? The weapon everyone will be using if thorn gets nerfed is red death, which can kill in two head shots btw so why isn't anyone complaining about that? How about instead of asking for Nerfs we ask for auto rifle and scout rifle buffs.
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I'm over these nerf threads in general. Just play the game and stop asking it to be tailored to your every need. The last time this community cried about a weapon Bungie made auto rifles completely useless, so just stop already.
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To all those crucible crybabies.....
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I'm a thorner hardcore, second exotic I ever maxed, but it should take a little more skill to use, I breeze through people, yet somehow I still suck haha. But anyways hand cannons should get nerfed again, auto rifles should be buffed by x1.3 damage, that's it!
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So the people who don't share your OPINION are automatically just flamers who don't know what they're talking about? That's a little full of yourself don't you think? Thorn is not op. Strafing it is so easy, and anything med-close is even easier. I'd say MIDA is way more frustrating to play against with the ridiculous strafe speed and even that is not op. There's about 5 guns that all play very differently but have the same ttk. I suck bad with thorn, have troubles going positive. But the vex, TLW, MIDA and juju make crucible easy for me. Each player has different play styles, strengths and weaknesses. What's good for some is terrible for others. You just have to know how to properly counter the gun
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Negative. Learn to work cover and choose your battles.
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Well you kinda prove it is the person by saying the "two head shots" thing because it's difficult to land two head shots with this gun (in my experience any) consistently. Besides temur's lash is way better
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Edited by SisterSafetyPin: 5/5/2015 12:20:26 AMYou guys are dumb. The Thorn still takes two shots + burn, at minimum. While other guns not including sniper rifles can one shot you. Get over it
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Op So sad So very sad Op Needs A hug Some Thorn Luvin
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Wow. You're complaining about people gettin on here b****ing and yet you're b****ing. Sweet dude wish I could be as cool as you
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I doubt you outgun it 80% unless you play scrubs. Any good player will dominate with it
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Just going to say I always used to go negative, then I found Thorn. Check my kd now and my grimoire to see which exotic I have the most kills with.
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If its so overpowered then idk...[spoiler]use it[/spoiler]