[quote]You guys always say its not the gun, but its the player's fault. I disagree. This gun can put the best crucible player to the ground with 2 headshots. This gun IS overpowered and you thorners just don't want it nerfed. If you want to flame me for not being good in crucible, my kd usually hangs around 2, but iron banner has destroyed my control kd... Edit: all these scrubs flaming don't want their thorn nerfed.... ;) Edit: most of you guys could only whine about 'lucky' headshots, so i changed that.[/quote] Wouldn't one way to handle this situation be to fix the aim assist? Skilled players would turn it off anyway and I believe that there would be a considerable difference between those that use it and those that don't. I use a maxed hawkmoon occasionally in pvp and still get wrecked from THW to bad juju and everything in between. But I'm not a great pvp player. But I will not jump on the "nerf what everyone enjoys" bandwagon. Regardless of whether you buy it from Xur, or do a crazy bounty for it, you[b]EARNED[/b] it. Why not enjoy the fruits of your labor? And since anyone can have these weapons, there's no point in complaining that it's OP. Get the gun yourself, get better at pvp, or if you feel that you can't hack it, ignore pvp all together. If everyone keeps bombarding the devs about nerfing weapons, they won't want to listen when a REAL problem arises.