I use any and all weapons at my disposal..... with that being said you will forever and always have the OP issue... if its not thorn then its another gun.... my point is this.....its absolutely a vicious gun but in my hands not so much....... but the hawkmoon on the other hand is a much better gun for me.......the skill of the individual is 80% of the success a weapon sees..... an OP gun is a gun which requires no skill to get the kill and that isn't the thorn.