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5/5/2015 1:45:22 PM
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Edited by BenjyX55: 5/5/2015 5:43:12 PMYour analogy is highly flawed. A)There's only one way the watch can fit together properly. There are hundreds of thousands of trillions of ways to make a functioning organism. B) Evolution is gradual. The functional organism, or the working watch, doesn't just happen. It takes several steps, several iterations. C) Evolution isn't just shaking random pieces and hoping for the best. Evolution is a process of populations changing based on new environmental factors or mutations that benefit existing conditions. It's far from random. Nice try.
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Exactly. Its evident in us as well, our appendixes are all but useless now; because we no longer live on a diet of plant material. And because of that over the last 1000 years our bodies have disabled its functionality, and its a mere waste of space now. Id say we're in the middle of evolving to remove it completely from our bodies, give us another 500 years or more (omg what? Yea sorry you don't just sprout adaptations and mutations in 10 seconds) and everyone will be naturally born without them.
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OMG, the Bible stated that humans were once only vegetarians, so much so that the early Hebraic culture made this habitual (in order to remain "religiously" clean).
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But even if we eat plant matter now, the appendix wont digest it because it simply no longer works thanks to our own evolution. I think you missed my point, i was just trying to get across that we are evolving, always have been and always will be.
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...and? Are we not humans? And do we not eat, walk, and talk as humans?
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Ummm you've completely lost me now, what point are you making if i may ask?
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Edited by SSG ACM: 5/7/2015 4:45:04 AMWhether you compare an ape to a human via physical similarities or genetic difference, it is either a human or an ape, and of course (and I hope you respect our beliefs) we as Christians do indeed realize that the biological life on Earth was very different. Since the habits, diet, and longevity of humans were not only evident in scientific studies but also supported by the Bible repetitively.
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Edited by Ordinal Prime: 5/7/2015 5:34:25 AMOf course i can and do respect your beliefs :) And you are certainly correct in saying: no matter the similarities between apes and humans, they are still two different things. However in my own opinion i've been led to believe that at some point thousands of years ago, the most humanoid apes and humans our selves, shared a common ancestor. And from that ancestor the two different species branched out over time (due to environment factors and pred/prey situations etc).
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[quote]There's only one way the watch can fit together properly. There are hundreds of thousands of trillions of ways to make a functioning organism.[/quote]Name ten.[quote]Evolution is gradual. The functional organism, or the working watch, doesn't just happen. It takes several steps, several iterations.[/quote]So does a watch.[quote]...mutations that benefit existing conditions. It's far from random.[/quote]Are you implying that mutations are inherently good?
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Edited by BenjyX55: 5/5/2015 8:19:55 PM[quote][quote]There's only one way the watch can fit together properly. There are hundreds of thousands of trillions of ways to make a functioning organism.[/quote]Name ten.[/quote] You. Me. The moron who made the false analogy. DeeJ. Your mother. My mother. Obama. Hitler. Einstein. Bill Gates. Ten functioning organisms, each of which are unique. [quote][quote]Evolution is gradual. The functional organism, or the working watch, doesn't just happen. It takes several steps, several iterations.[/quote]So does a watch.[/quote] Exactly. It's not as simple of assembling the parts and letting them randomly assemble themselves. [quote][quote]...mutations that benefit existing conditions. It's far from random.[/quote]Are you implying that mutations are inherently good?[/quote] Most mutations have no discernible effect, or an inconsequential effect. The mutations that are good or bad are the ones that influence evolution. The mutations that are good are the ones that are more likely to survive within a population.
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No, name ten ways to make a functioning organism.
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I did. Every organism that has ever lived has been unique. Every watch of the same model will be the same.
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Edited by SSG ACM: 5/7/2015 4:45:51 AMNo, [b]how[/b]? Not who or what.
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This is a talk you should have with your parents.
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I'm not talking about sex.
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Well that's how organisms are made. Humans, anyway.
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Alright, let's start with something small. How about amoebas?
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What are you asking? Small amoebas are made when a bigger amoeba splits. But that's beside the point. There's only one combination of parts for the watch to work. There are theoretically infinite possible genetic combinations for living organisms.
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Edited by SSG ACM: 5/8/2015 1:10:18 AMLong story short: How was the first amoeba formed? The answer is unexplainable so don't bother attempting to explain unless you for sure have evidential proof (as most Atheists pester to exclaim). The point that I inevitably am going to get to is that evolution has no explanation to the origin of life, an it isn't in any inline sources. So we are not even supposed to exist. So everything finite should have been created by something infinite if we exist. Period. I need this thread to stop. No more responding unless you really have to.
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You assume I'm an atheist. That's ignorant.
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Then what are you?
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That's not relevant to this topic.
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Then I can only assume Deist.
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Edited by BenjyX55: 5/8/2015 4:03:13 AMWrong, and no more relevant than it was an hour ago.
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Theist then?
