Seems to me u all suck ha ha, I bought the vendor one and think it's amazing. If u can't drop someone in 5 rounds with a handcannon then you must be shit. And the fact that it has mega fast reload doesn't make a difference to me. You just pop in and out of cover if need be. People who moan about it are clearly rubbish crucible players who think the last word is the best handcannon on the game. When in reality it's rubbish, the best handcannin is the thorn by a mile. And if anyone needs me to prove it I'm on the 360 goon3r1985.