Yes, destiny was sold to me for its sicusl aspect. But let's look at that ... Mist activities are 3 man, they're easy you can chat n laugh and callnouts are minimum so you can party chat with all 6 members of your raid team. Enter the raid as six you can still chat n laugh cos call outs are relevant to all in the group, prison if elders now you must drop 3 players call out are relevant so chat groups dissolve the social aspect dwindles chats become less chatty n more game focussed. Now PoE needs treasure keys to attain final loot some of the people have them some don't, teams get mixed up swapped around, hell some just don't even bother to play due to no keys. 3 member fire teams if friends is now 3 strangers from LFG Strangers who don't chat ... The game becomes mundane and boring and you begin to feel the grind as a chore cos you're no longer having fun with friends but chasing some forever out if reach carrot on a stick with another bunch of brainless donkies. Those who see thus will leave, those who really are brainless donkeys will stick with lfg and play in silence and will no longer be a social activity Gaming is a social event for some that why we play MMO style games ... If we wanted silence wed play freedom fighter with AI we control, at least they're less likely to do something stupid causing a wipe for the 100th time