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I know your stance and it appears to be a minority that think this way, if you look at my post I linked most people consider all of them denominations of Christianity.
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  • If you have also noticed, your repliers don't use any verses to substantiate their belief, and the atheists that have responded obviously don't use the Bible since no duh they're atheists, and the person you chose as the answer to your thread not only exhibited what I just stated, but they also are a Ninja (that's like asking the teacher, "Who's side our you on?" it's very childish).

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  • [quote]If you have also noticed, your repliers don't use any verses to substantiate their belief[/quote]Go in the post and reply to some of them. One might argue verses aren't necessary considering the debate is if all sub-denominations are Christians not about different practices.[quote]and the atheists that have responded obviously don't use the Bible since no duh they're atheists, [/quote]The post isn't relevant to atheist and I don't even think any really commented.[quote]and the person you chose as the answer to your thread not only exhibited what I just stated,[/quote]At least its not biased garbage like your answer here. (Lets save that debate for another time) The answer I chose was an unbiased answer that I felt currently answered the question. If someone provides a better one I would gladly change it.

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  • [quote]The answer I chose was an unbiased answer that I felt currently answered the question.[/quote]It's not about what you feel to be correct; it's about what is correct.[quote]If someone provides a better one, I would gladly change it.[/quote]Based off of [insert your opinion here].

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  • Edited by DemonWarfare: 5/22/2015 2:55:37 PM
    [quote]The answer I chose was an unbiased answer that I felt currently answered the question.[/quote] - Demon [b]The Question:[/b] Why do some Protestants not consider Catholics Christian? [b]Answer I chose:[/b] Belief in Jesus Christ as the Messiah = Christian Arguments over nearly everything else = Sectarianism [b]Definition of Sectarianism for those that don't know:[/b][spoiler]is bigotry, discrimination, or hatred arising from attaching importance to perceived differences between subdivisions within a group, such as between different denominations of a religion, class, regional or factions of a political movement.[/spoiler][quote]It's not about what you feel to be correct; it's about what is correct.[/quote] - SSG Way to be a hypocrite. Evolution is a fact & it doesn't matter what your opinion on that matter is, it is still a fact. In regards to Denominations of Christianity your a minority that argues other denominations aren't Christian. Your the one that needs to substantiate your point because most people don't agree with you on that or evolution. (Its taught in schools for a reason)[quote]If someone provides a better one, I would gladly change it.[/quote] - Demon[quote]Based off of [insert your opinion here].[/quote] - SSG No it was based off of an answer that defined things accurately.

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  • Edited by SSG ACM: 5/25/2015 5:38:32 AM
    [quote]Why do some Protestants not consider Catholics Christian?[/quote]The Catholic Church promoted the Apocrypha about 30 years after Martin Luther debunked the Church with the Ninety-five Thesis explaining their fallacy since their entire salvation doctrine had no scriptural basis: They promoted salvation by works, the forgiveness of sins by priests, the celibacy of the Catholic priesthood, the deistic homage toward Mary, the holiness of the Pope, and more.[quote][The] Answer [b]I[/b] Chose: Belief in Jesus Christ as the Messiah=Christian[/quote]So Satan's a Christian? I didn't know that.[quote]Arguments Over Nearly Everything Else=Sectarianism[/quote]Bigotry or alienation within a group=Sectarianism. Fixed.[quote]Evolution is a fact...[/quote]Replier can't read titles.[quote]...and it doesn't matter what your opinion on [the] matter is, it is still a fact.[/quote]...or spoilers.[quote]In regards to Denominations of Christianity your a minority that argues [that] other denominations aren't Christian.[/quote]Minority? I argue that specifically Mormonism, Charismatics or Pentacostals, and Catholicism are false forms of Christianity. The majority of everybody else's dogma is line with the Bible, which is the guide on how to become a Christian. So how am I still in a minority? Did you take a poll? A source?[spoiler]http://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/ [/spoiler]Seriously, are you for real?[quote][You're] the one that needs to substantiate your point because most people don't agree with you on that or evolution.[/quote]Because most people disagree? That is not a reason to state why one is wrong, and again, it is not a majority.[quote](It's taught in schools for a reason.)[/quote]Is the reason, "To get an education"?[quote]If someone provides a better one, I would gladly change it.[/quote]Because? You picked the Ninja because he provided why they are all the same. Not why they are all different. You already had a preset answer in mind. All you wanted was your opinion coming out of another's mouth. What's wrong with that? Your answer should be in line with the Bible, not by opinion.[quote]No, it was based off of an answer that defined things accurately.[/quote]So does a dictionary, but it doesn't mean I'm going to use it to verify someone's salvation because of Matthew 7:13 and 7:21.

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  • [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/123803927/0/0]Most people believe in Evolution[/url]

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  • Edited by SSG ACM: 5/24/2015 8:52:40 PM
    [quote]Most people don't.[/quote] Fixed. http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=90356

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  • What the hell does that have to do with Evolution? lol

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  • One word: Religion.

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  • Just because someone is religious doesn't automatically mean they don't believe in Evolution lol, your just making assumptions.

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  • Edited by SSG ACM: 5/25/2015 2:27:32 PM
    I didn't say all of evolution is false; hence, this OP's title. LOL. Religious people, especially those in Christianity, believe that the age of the earth, species branching into "new" species, and origins of the earth is what we consider to be disagreeable.

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  • Edited by DemonWarfare: 5/25/2015 3:42:57 PM
    [quote]I didn't say all of evolution is false; hence, this OP's title. LOL.[/quote]Yea and if you read your OP you basically go on to try and debunk Evolution lol[quote]Religious people, especially those in Christianity, believe that the age of the earth, species branching into "new" species, and origins of the earth is what we consider to be disagreeable.[/quote]Oh I didn't know you were the face of all theist and had the authority to speak for them.

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  • Edited by SSG ACM: 5/25/2015 4:55:51 PM
    [quote][quote]I didn't say all of evolution is false; hence, this OP's title. LOL.[/quote]Yeah, and if you read your OP, you basically go on to try and debunk evolution. LOL.[/quote]Not all of evolution is conclusive. Those are the parts that we are debating; hence, why I'm tolerable for only a select few facts because they are evidential, but when it comes to the age of the earth, speciation, origins, and complexity, I have to disagree.[quote]Religious people, especially those in Christianity, believe that the age of the earth, species branching into "new" species, and origins of the earth is what we consider to be disagreeable.[/quote]Oh, I didn't know you were the face of all theist...[/quote]What are you talking about?[quote]...and had the authority to speak for them.[/quote]Again, what are you talking about? I feel like you are getting off topic. What I stated is true. Issue?

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  • [quote]The Catholic Church promoted the Apocrypha about 30 years after Martin Luther debunked it with the Ninety-five Thesis explaining their fallacy since their entire salvation doctrine had no scriptural basis: They promoted salvation by works, the forgiveness of sins by priests, the celibacy of the Catholic priesthood, the deistic homage toward Mary, the holiness of the Pope, and more.[/quote]Arguments about scripture within Christianity have nothing to do with defining someone as Christian, That is why there are different denominations because not everyone practices the same, but nevertheless they all believe in God and Jesus which makes them a Christian.[quote]So Satan's a Christian? I didn't know that.[/quote]If he believes in God and Jesus than yes.[quote]Bigotry or alienation within a group=Sectarianism.[/quote]Which is what your doing.[quote]Replier can't read titles.[/quote]I can read your title fine, your whole post is a pitiful attempt at debunking Evolution.[quote]Minority? I argue that specifically Mormonism, Charismatics or Pentacostals, and Catholicism are false forms of Christianity. The majority of everybody else's dogma is line with the Bible, which is the guide on how to become a Christian. So how am I still in a minority? [/quote]Your a minority of people who deny those groups as Christians, not a minority denomination.[quote]Did you take a poll? A source? Seriously, are you for real?[/quote] If you feel its necessary than sure, again I wasn't saying your a minority denomination, I was saying your a minority of people who hold the belief that other denominations aren't Christian.[quote][You're] the one that needs to substantiate your point because most people don't agree with you on that or evolution.[/quote]"sigh" Have you read any of the replies of your post, virtually everyone agrees that Evolution is a fact LOL, but sure I will make another poll and get other sources.[quote]Because most people disagree? That is not a reason to state why one is wrong, and again, it is not a majority.[/quote]No, but it holds value and yes it is a majority, but as usual you live your life in denial & that you are the absolute truth and have knowledge of everything.[quote]Is the reason, "To get an education"?[/quote]Thats not even a relevant question.[quote]Because? You picked the Ninja because he provided why they are all the same. Not why they are all different. [/quote]Similarities and differences don't matter that is the definition of Christianity[quote]You already had a preset answer in mind. [/quote]Way to make assumptions.[quote]All you wanted was your opinion coming out of another's mouth. What's wrong with that? Your answer should be in line with the Bible, not by opinion.[/quote]It is, "Crucial to understanding the Bible definition of a Christian is the fact that all human beings have been sinners, including ourselves (Rom. 3:23). The penalty for sin is permanent death (Rom. 6:23). [b] A Christian is one who has come to realize that he or she had been under that death penalty and in need of a Savior. A Christian understands that Jesus Christ paid that penalty by dying on the cross when He was completely innocent of any sin[/b] (II Cor. 5:21; I John 2:2; 4:10; R " All christians fit that definition.[quote]So does a dictionary, but it doesn't mean I'm going to use it to verify someone's salvation because of Matthew 7:13 and 7:21.[/quote]Salvation isn't relevant in defining who is Christian.

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  • Edited by SSG ACM: 5/25/2015 6:51:00 PM
    [quote][quote]The Catholic Church promoted the Apocrypha about 30 years after Martin Luther debunked the Church with the Ninety-five Thesis explaining their fallacy since their entire salvation doctrine had no scriptural basis: They promoted salvation by works, the forgiveness of sins by priests, the celibacy of the Catholic priesthood, the deistic homage toward Mary, the holiness of the Pope, and more.[/quote]Arguments about scripture within Christianity have nothing to do with defining someone as Christian...[/quote]Because there is an established definition on the word "Christian," it doesn't mean that it should be used to determine which is true and which is false.[quote]...that is why there are different denominations because not everyone practices the same...[/quote]They should. We are always to be of one mind. There should never be any sense of discrimination.[quote]...but nevertheless they all believe in God and Jesus which makes them a Christian.[/quote]No, with that thinking you just included Muslims as Christians, but they never were or are Christians. You are not even an acclaimed Christian or part of any denomination to understand the denotation of a Christian's thinking.[quote][quote]So Satan's a Christian? I didn't know that.[/quote]If he believes in God and Jesus than yes.[/quote]Now this part of your statement was really, really stupid.[quote][quote]Bigotry or alienation within a group=Sectarianism.[/quote]Which is what your doing.[/quote]Then according to that definition the same side condones to the same activity.[quote][quote]Replier can't read titles.[/quote]I can read your title fine, your whole post is a pitiful attempt at debunking Evolution.[/quote]...or paragraphs.[quote]SSG ACM Stated: Minority? I argue that specifically Mormonism, Charismatics or Pentacostals, and Catholicism are false forms of Christianity. The majority of everybody else's dogma is line with the Bible, which is the guide on how to become a Christian. So how am I still in a minority? [/quote]Your a minority of people who deny those groups as Christians, not a minority denomination.[/quote]Replier can't read polls.[quote]Did you take a poll? A source? Seriously, are you for real?[/quote] If you feel its necessary than sure, again I wasn't saying [you're] a minority denomination, I was saying your a minority of people who hold the belief that other denominations aren't Christian.[/quote]As every acclaimed Christian should.[quote][quote][You're] the one that needs to substantiate your point because most people don't agree with you on that or evolution.[/quote]"sigh" Have you read any of the replies of your post, virtually everyone agrees that Evolution is a fact LOL, but sure I will make another poll and get other sources.[/quote]*ahem* I was quoting you.[quote][quote]Because most people disagree? That is not a reason to state why one is wrong, and again, it is not a majority.[/quote]No, but it holds value and yes it is a majority, but as usual you live your life in denial and that you are the absolute truth and have knowledge of everything.[/quote]When Replier doesn't believe me, he still doesn't read polls.[quote][quote]Is the reason, "To get an education"?[/quote]Thats not even a relevant question.[/quote]You are the one who bloody asked for my answer.[quote]Because? You picked the Ninja because he provided why they are all the same, not why they are all different. [/quote]Similarities and differences don't matter that is the definition of Christianity.[/quote]Definition without discernment according to acclaimed following dogma is nonsense.[quote][quote]All you wanted was your opinion coming out of another's mouth. What's wrong with that? Your answer should be in line with the Bible, not by opinion.[/quote]It is, "Crucial to understanding the Bible definition of a Christian is the fact that all human beings have been sinners, including ourselves (Rom. 3:23). The penalty for sin is permanent death (Rom. 6:23). [b]A Christian is one who has come to realize that he or she had been under that death penalty and in need of a Savior. A Christian understands that Jesus Christ paid that penalty by dying on the cross when He was completely innocent of any sin[/b]. (II Cor. 5:21; I John 2:2; 4:10).[/quote]What version are you using? And this proves my point. Not every Christian follows the Word of the Bible. Your specific inclusion doesn't include the erases regarding who is who and who is not.[quote][quote]So does a dictionary, but it doesn't mean I'm going to use it to verify someone's salvation because of Matthew 7:13 and 7:21.[/quote]Salvation isn't relevant in defining who is Christian.[/quote]It does. Replier can't read Bible passages yet can access the internet.

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  • [quote]Because there is an established definition on the word "Christian," it doesn't mean that it should be used to determine which is true and which is false[/quote]So your going to police Christianity, condemn and alienate those who you think aren't fit. Thats [b][i]VERY[/i][/b] Christian of you lol[quote]They should. We are always to be of one mind. There should never be any sense of discrimination[/quote]Then stop discriminating lol, name one religion where there are no sub-denominations.[quote]No, with that thinking you just included Muslims as Christians, but they never were or are Christians. You are not even an acclaimed Christian or part of any denomination to understand the denotation of a Christian's thinking.[/quote]Thats not true, they don't follow Jesus's teachings or the Bible. So because someone isn't apart of something they automatically have no capabilities to understand something else? Lol[quote]Now this part of your statement was really, really stupid[/quote]So your implying sinners don't believe in God?[quote]Minority? I argue that specifically Mormonism, Charismatics or Pentacostals, and Catholicism are false forms of Christianity. The majority of everybody else's dogma is line with the Bible, which is the guide on how to become a Christian. So how am I still in a minority? [/quote][url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/123864108/0/0]See for yourself and if you read my other post you would see your a minority even there[/url][quote]As every acclaimed Christian should[/quote]It's every Christians job to judge and condemn everyone else? Sounds very Christian[quote]When Replier doesn't believe me, he still doesn't read polls[/quote][url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/123803927/0/0]Do you?[/url]

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  • Edited by SSG ACM: 5/26/2015 5:27:56 AM
    [quote]So your going to police Christianity, condemn and alienate those who you think aren't fit.[/quote]If they conflict with scripture, yes.[quote]That's [b][i]VERY[/i][/b] Christian of you.[/quote]How kind of you to finally acknowledge the fact.[quote]Then stop discriminating...[/quote]It isn't discriminating if the Bible supports it.[quote]...name one religion where there are no sub-denominations.[/quote]Why?[quote]Thats not true, they (Muslims) don't follow Jesus' teachings or the Bible.[/quote]You just stated that you agree with anyone that believes in Jesus is a Christian. You're so fickle. Why is your definition suddenly changing?[quote]So because someone isn't apart of something they automatically have no capabilities to understand something else?[/quote]No, if someone doesn't understand the basics of anything, they won't understand the complexity.[quote]So your implying sinners don't believe in God?[/quote]You have to be more specific. Everyone was or is a sinner.[quote]It's every Christian's job to judge and condemn everyone else?[/quote]It's every Christian's job to realize every person's faults.[quote]Sounds very Christian[/quote]Very.[quote]When Replier doesn't believe me, he still doesn't read polls.[/quote]Why do you keep sourcing BUNGIE?! This is literally a slap in the face of all those who say, "I want proof."

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  • What was it based off of? What do you use as your standard of truth?

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  • Edited by DemonWarfare: 5/22/2015 3:40:24 PM
    Based of off unbiased information [b]Definitions of Christianity:[/b] 1) [url=https://www.google.com/search?q=definition+of+christianity&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS590US590&oq=definition&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i57j69i59j69i61l2j69i59&sourceid=chrome-mobile&espv=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en-US]Google[/url] -[quote]the religion based on the person and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, or its beliefs and practices.[/quote]2) [url=http://i.word.com/idictionary/christianity]Webster[/url] -[quote]: the religion that is based on the teachings of Jesus Christ 1 :the religion derived from Jesus Christ, based on the Bible as sacred scripture, and professed by Eastern, Roman Catholic, and Protestant bodies 2 :conformity to the Christian religion[/quote]3) [url=http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Christianity]dictionary.reference.com[/url] -[quote]1. the Christian religion, including the Catholic, Protestant, and Eastern Orthodox churches. 2. Christian beliefs or practices; Christian quality or character[/quote]4) [url=http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/Christianity]Oxford[/url] - [quote]The religion based on the person and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, or its beliefs and practices.[spoiler]Christianity is today the world’s most widespread religion, with more than a billion members, mainly divided between the Roman Catholic, Protestant, and Eastern Orthodox Churches. It originated among the Jewish followers of Jesus of Nazareth, who believed that he was the promised Messiah (or ‘Christ’), but the Christian Church soon became an independent organization, largely through the missionary efforts of St. Paul. In 313 Constantine ended official persecution in the Roman Empire and in 380 Theodosius I recognized it as the state religion. Most Christians believe in one God in three Persons (the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit) and that Jesus is the Son of God who rose from the dead after being crucified; a Christian hopes to attain eternal life after death through faith in Jesus Christ and tries to live by his teachings as recorded in the New Testament[/spoiler][/quote] Do i need to get more things that prove the answer i selected?

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  • Edited by SSG ACM: 5/22/2015 3:47:57 PM
    Yes because we know what Christianity is based off of already, but we have "ravening wolves in sheep's clothing" (Matthew 7).

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  • Edited by SSG ACM: 5/22/2015 2:38:45 PM
    It's not about practices; it's about dogma. It's not about the most etiquette opinion; it's about substantiation.

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  • Well if you have time reply to some of them please do, I am interested in your take on what their saying and to see the debates.

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  • Sure, I guess.

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