Exotics do not count period ( even so, old is good, future is good, modern day military looking stuff, not so good) ..... (oh and FYI fourth horseman, BS! bungie damn well knows that is a break action shotgun but they said F-U to the community that got excited when they first saw it. which includes me XD ) Anyhoo, I was just responding to your post, I do not want to, in my games, use a p-90, mpk-4 or any modern firearm, I want good old classical, antique/ornate weapons, tribal weapons, or future-tech weapons, I want creativity, not modern firearm types put into destiny.... Some of the weapons get a pass as being creative.... Lastly, when I saw hand cannon, I got excited, only to find out its a revolver and be let down... (though was an energy weapon) then I was slightly excited to find out the barrel is at the bottom of the cartridge/magazine :p