I love my thorn. I had to work hard for mine as I'm a below average crucible player. You leave my thorn alone! I love killing with it and I also die by it so I call that even. As for fatebringer, well I can't even recall being killed by one in the crucible. On the other hand, you could be baiting us into a reaction so if that's the case then if you want to nerf something, you can just nerf my a$$!