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5/28/2015 1:54:02 PM
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But God is not condemning them to Hell. They are condemning themselves when they do not accept Jesus as their savior. He has already paid the punishment for our sins, and when we accept him, then our punishment is paid. Those who do not accept him do not have anyone to pay the punishment for their sins except their own selves. God is a just God. He has to punish sin. So people can either accept the punishment Jesus has already endured for their sins, or they can reject him and pay for their sins themselves in hell.
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Right I get all that, we have a choice. But he creates mankind with prior knowledge that many will end up suffering. I dunno, I wouldn't create a race knowing that many will suffer just so I can have a few in heaven with me.
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Right I get all that, we have a choice. But he created us with prior knowledge that many will burn in hell. I dunno, I wouldn't create a race knowing so many will end up suffering just so I can have a few in heaven with me.
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So what r u saying? That you will not believe in God because a lot of people will go to hell for not believing in him?
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That's one of my reasons for not believing yes...I just think that's really really F-ed up on God's part. Just think how selfish that is for a minute. 'I'm gonna create this race so I can have some followers. But many many more will end up in hell and I am fully aware of their fates prior to creating them but I will anyways'
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But it's not fair to accuse God of being "f-Ed up" when looking at this from a human perspective. Our minds have a limited understanding of all things. But he is not limited to anything. There's more to it than just that
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Sigh, look I don't wanna be rude, but do u realize how brainwashed that sounds. 'We cant understand god or why things happen, so just dont question things ok?' I know beefcake already told you this. And yes it is fair to accuse god. He made everything
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Ok I have a question. If you, beefcake, (or any other atheists that match this upcoming description) do not believe that God exists, then why try so hard to persuade us that he doesn't exist, or persecute us, or try to make us question our beliefs? Like beefcake calling me brainwashed because I believe what I believe. And in that long paragraph he/she typed calling me or anyone else who believes this "ludicrous" idea "stupid". Why do yall care what we believe, if you do not believe God exists? For example, beef cake thinks that beef cake is a disgusting food, however, I enjoy it. He thinks it's the worst food ever made, but I happen to think its the best food ever made. It is not scientifically proven whether this tastes good to me or not, so would it make since for him to call me brainwashed/stupid because I BELIEVE that this is the best food ever, even though he/she has the opposite opinion?
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It's more like you thinking that a dog shit sandwich with a donkey semen sauce on top is good. I'm sitting here thinking there is no way you can actually believe that tastes good, and all you can say is that all I need to do is believe and have faith that it is good or I burn in hell for eternity.
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And it's not more like that because that would obviously be bad for you. Believing in God is bad for you how?
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Because it is equivalent to believing in imaginary friends. It's not healthy, has caused countless wars throughout history, and ruins critical thinking because you refuse to leave your box of ideas for fear of burning in hell.
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First, it's unhealthy how? Second, Christ has not caused wars. That's humans manipulating greed or others tuff as "Gods will". And I think critically about things all the time, mind you
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U still haven't answered my question
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You don't hear how brainwashed you are, do you?
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Brainwashed by who? An almighty supernatural being who cares for me and loves me more than I know, who I can depend on for anything and he will always come through? If this is the case then I'd be gladly brainwashed by him. But it's not brainwashing. It's a relationship between a father and a child.
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God created us in his image and loves us, but we are inherently sinners and evil and must be forgiven. Doesn't that sound fishy to you? I don't believe God exists because this all powerful being refuses to reveal himself and I don't have "faith". I live a great moral life, but I'll burn in hell for eternity apparently, sound fair to you?
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Well for one, we weren't always sinners. Adam and Eve weren't sinners until they are the forbidden fruit. That's when evil entered into our world. You may live a good moral life to the world's standard, but all have sinned. All fall short of Gods glorious standard. But he offers us a way out of the coming punishment. But it's our choice whether we accept it or not. He didn't have to give us a chance. He could have let us die in our sin, but by his grace and mercy he gave his son. Now I am redeemed. This isn't fishy to me. It's amazing grace.
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You are so stubborn and brainwashed you can't even have a coherent discussion. You know what sucks? When your brain dies, you die. You have no soul that is going to heaven. So when you die, you won't even realize how stupid you were in believing there was a heaven because you will no longer exist. So disappointing.
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I'm sorry you feel that way, but I know where I'm going when I die. I have that assurance, that peace that comes with it.
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Considering how much of a spiteful, vindictive bitch God is, havefun with that.
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I like your name though. It's a name I've though about naming my kid one day
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Thats random and off topic.
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Life is random and off topic
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Shoutout to red herrings.
