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5/28/2015 6:35:05 PM
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This is a question I have heard before. Adam and Eve were first but I believe that God followed to create others as well after humans proved to not be perfect creatures. That's what God wanted but also realized would be impossible to do if he wanted them to have free will and make decisions for themselves. Jesus dying for our sins was God's ultimate way of trying to get people to believe in him, to show people what his love is all about. There was also a point where Earth grew so dark and grotesque that he decided to flood the entire surface and wipe it clean. The second part of your question is a little vague to me. Maybe you can reword it? What exactly are you asking about the Crucifixion of Jesus?
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  • Edited by The Domain: 5/28/2015 6:44:19 PM
    Show me in the bible were it said that god made millions of other humans. Other wise you are trying to patch plot holes in the infallible word of god. And if you plan on bull shiting some passage ([b]IF[/b]) know that I've read the bible more times than most Christians I know. Now to reword: Eve convinced Adam to commute the original sin that plagued man. Jesus died to repay that debt. Adam and Eve, in the biblical text, could not have existed and resulted in the multiple races and complexity of human genetics today. So if the creation story isn't true, the original sin isn't true, therefore Jesus died to pay a debt that didn't exist. And as for the flood, that never happened. It isn't possible that a planet engulfing flood took place and left no evidence behind at all.

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  • The bible says Eve is the mother of all living. Problem solved.

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  • I sure hope you're joking.

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  • Read the bible dude

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  • The bible isn't. Source. That's like me saying you should go read Harry potter to learn facts.

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  • It's actually nothing like saying that.

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  • I sure hope your joking that you do know that she is the mother of all the humans on earth therefore God Didn't create people after that.

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  • Good point, my friend. There are many things in which I simply don't have the proper words for. If I did, I would probably be a pastor myself at a church somewhere. That is why I pursue God and gaining knowledge every single say. Throughout this thread, I've learned that there are things I simply cannot answer. Things that I can ask my own pastor. But instead of leaving you simply at that, I' leave you with the stance of Charles Ryrie on the subject from his book [i]Basic Theology[/i]: [quote]Though by many inerrantists the question of where Cain got his wife would not be considered a problem at all, this question is often used by those who try to demonstrate that the Bible is unreliable in what it claims. How could it claim that Adam and Eve were the first human beings who had two sons, one of whom murdered the other, and yet who produced a large race of people? Clearly, the Bible does teach that Adam and Eve were the first created human beings. The Lord affirmed this in Matthew 19:3-9. The genealogy of Christ is traced back to Adam (Luke 3:38). Jude 14 identifies Enoch as the seventh from Adam. This could hardly mean the seventh from “mankind,” an interpretation that would be necessary if Adam were not an individual as some claim. Clearly, Cain murdered Abel and yet many people were born. Where did Cain get his wife? We know that Adam and Eve had other sons and daughters in addition to Abel, Cain, and Seth (Gen. 5:4), and if there was only one original family, then the first marriages had to be between brothers and sisters. Such marriages in the beginning were not harmful. Incest is dangerous because inherited mutant genes that produce deformed, sickly, or moronic children are more likely to find expression in children if those genes are carried by both parents. Certainly, Adam and Eve, coming from the creative hand of God, had no such mutant genes. Therefore, marriages between brothers and sisters, or nieces and nephews in the first and second generations following Adam and Eve would not have been dangerous. Many, many generations later, by the time of Moses, incest was then prohibited in the Mosaic laws undoubtedly for two reasons: first, such mutations that caused deformity had accumulated to the point where such unions were genetically dangerous, and second, it was forbidden because of the licentious practices of the Egyptians and Canaanites and as a general protection against such in society. It should also be noted that in addition to the Bible most other legal codes refuse to sanction marriages of close relatives. But here is another issue to consider. If one accepts the evolutionary hypothesis as to the origin of the human race, has that really relieved the issue of incest? Not unless you also propound the idea of the evolution of many pairs of beings, pre-human or whatever, at the same time. No matter what theory of the origin of the human race one may take, are we not driven to the conclusion that in the early history of the race, there was the need for intermarriage of the children of the same pair?[/quote]

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