[quote]Here's your logic... Good players have good guns. Nerf their good guns so they have to use different good guns. In which case they will then be good players with different good guns People used to use vex, it got nerfed. Then suros, it got nerfed, Now thorn... go ahead, nerf it, you're still going to get wrecked by the same people, just with different guns. Good players know what the best option , and they will always use it. Changing what the best option is won't make a player any worse.[/quote] Thorn is a good gun but most of people use them without skill, just because it makes great damge du to his poison. If those people give up thorn i don't think they will do a good game. A weapon is good if a player now how to use it ...