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Edited by II Stargazer x: 9/14/2015 1:45:28 PM
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Respond to the noticable overwhelming request for Optional Matchmaking

edit: Additional Matchmaking Options has been added to the wish list, this could be good or bad since it does not say optional or for all activities but it is a step forward. Dear Bungie please respond not with a philosophy respond honestly. why are you not responding to the request for optional matchmaking, we want a nice clear answer with no crap philosophy? why must we go off a console game to make a clan/group/fireteam on a PC when it should already be supported in the game? why is all of your Matchmaking mandatory and not optional? why is Optional Matchmaking a bad thing? why does the End game content have to be for only the elitist? why is there no Social chat in the Social spaces? where is the EPIC story in the game? why do we have to do so much out of the game? lastly what is with all these weak philosophy that do not support the game? [quote]ToughGuy051 Plus one, what's the harm if its optional? The other people on the other side of the fence act as if its going to effect or hurt them. You do you and use LFG. I'm happy with the risk of matchmaking.[/quote] and here is one for YOU fellow Guardians: If Bungie announced that a optional matchmaking or LFG system was coming with Destiny's fourth expansion, would you continue to support the game regardless of its price? simple questions, just waiting for answers we're all here, not to bust Bungie's balls (Marty did that already), but because we all love this game (or the 2013 game that we all remember and loved). link to my solution post https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/139313634/0/0 please support it thank you for your time Stargazer Out

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  • We should start a pool to guess how many comments this gets to before they yank it from Highest Rated. I'm putting the over/under at 117.

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    • Bungie is actively removing hot-button topics (such as matchmaking) from the Trending and Highest Rated tabs. Do you believe it is their right to censor these forums to make topics they don't agree with less visible? Or do you feel that these forums are supposed to be our place to have a voice and a place where we can champion causes for change? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The questions it forces us to ask. According to DeeJ Player feedback is one of the most important components of the conversation on Bungie.net. Dedicated teams at Bungie survey the forums in search of support issues and development ideas. Specific user-created topics that trend as a result of community interaction are more effective in providing us with that information than blog threads with thousands of competing replies. If that is in fact true and their teams search TRENDING topics, it effectively squashes a thread to remove it from that tab. We've had hundreds of individual Guardian's weigh in on this topic and have about 10 of the most liked posts in #feedback, including 2 of the top 3. This is another DeeJ quote. Let me get this straight. The player is never “wrong.” I believe that down to my bones. At Bungie, I represent to the developers what you say without prejudice. If that is the case, we've been asking for answers for a week now. Again, there are literally hundreds of stories explaining why people would like in-game matchmaking options and why LFG sites (as awesome as they can be for some) just don't work for them. If a player is never wrong, when one writes a heartfelt post that they don't want to have to use LFG or go outside the game to play the game, how can you reconcile the above quote when you answer them with "Go form your own clan"? Another Bungie quote (not sure DeeJ or another) in response to Asa's question: I love the game... But some don't. Can you shed some 'light' on your feelings toward these negative reviews and feedback? Bungie thrives on feedback. Never feel like you need to stick up for us when you see someone expressing an honest opinion about our games. We’re harder on ourselves than anyone else. Players have been asking for in-game options to play with other Guardians since launch. With each new expansion, raid and batch of new content, that frustration grows for those who want to get on and play, but don't have friends on and don't want to go search outside sources for a team. As much as it sucks that the raid for HoW was delayed, I have to admit that part of me was completely stoked for whatever PoE was going to be because I couldn't imagine that it wasn't going to be endgame content that was finally easily available to EVERYONE and not just raiders. Joke was on any of us who thought that, huh? We are almost 9 full months into Destiny and it is more of a chore than ever to access meaningful content in this game. We've been asking for change the entire time, but have our voices been muted this entire time too? Again, let me go back to this quote from DeeJ, because this is very important: Let me get this straight. The player is never “wrong.” I believe that down to my bones. At Bungie, I represent to the developers what you say without prejudice. DeeJ is our voice with the developers. Well, if DeeJ doesn't believe in our cause, how much faith can we really have that we are being heard? This is DeeJ from way back on November 11, 2014 in response to the call for more matchmaking: It's no secret that the highest quality teammates are the ones you choose for yourself. Anyone with a robust friends list will testify to that. We hear the feedback about matchmaking, and there are conversations about it's future. In the meantime, anyone posting to this forum has a galley of potential teammates to recruit. This is tremendously important because it clearly shows that all the way back then, DeeJ was showing bias against matchmaking. If you're curious, my reply that day: Uh, no. Sorry DeeJ, but that's nowhere close to true. Some of the highest quality people you'll ever meet are in matchmade games and you all know it was ridiculous to not give us that option. Ask anyone who's played any online game how many amazing friends they've made that they met randomly online in a game. I met my wife in a random group in an online deathmatch. What you all did is indicative of the sad social practice of trying to protect us from ourselves. Is skydiving dangerous? Potentially. If I understand that risk and I'm okay with it, should I be able to jump? Yes, I should. Is there a possibility I may get grouped with an asshole in a random game online? Yup. If I am okay with that and willing to wear a headset, should I be able to talk to the 90% of people that aren't asshats? Yes, I should. As an online community manager, you should know that even though the bad seeds may be loud, the majority of people are cool and drawn together by a shared passion. After HoW released, we posted yet more dismay at the unnecessary degree of difficulty just getting to run the new endgame content if friends weren't readily available. From DeeJ. seven months after having to respond to our initial calls for mm: At current, our philosophy about endgame content is that part of the challenge includes forming up a team. This is a strong community filled with players who are looking for teammates. Why not seek each other out here and band together Well, we responded and we banded together and we have over a thousand likes over dozens of posts and instead of being heard, instead of being represented, instead of being engaged, we are left with flippant remarks, corporate-speak mantras and silence. Again, we have asked reasonable questions. We have given in depth answers as to why we feel so strongly in our beliefs. We have engaged in conversations with those who feel differently. We have searched for answers and common ground and have offered ideas for solutions. And in response, our posts have been removed from all but the "Latest" feed, which in and of itself tells us volumes about how much our opinions and experiences truly matter. I'll end this by again saying that the reason we all are here is because we love Destiny. We are all Warlocks, Hunters, Titans. We all have battled the Archon Priest, Sepkis and Rockets McD**kface together. We're not adversaries (well, outside of PvP) and we're all trying to make this game the very best it can be. So how did we get here? Thank you to all who believe, support, never give up and always #bumpfortruth.

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      • https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/125842415 They buried my thread about mm and thread deletions. Again. Made ANOTHER new one. Need some bumps guys!

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        • I paid for all the content, but Bungie says "You can't access all the content you've paid us for." Interesting business model. Bungie... Jason... please come to your senses. One of your most loyal customers here. Since Durandal. I got to access all the content of your previous games, this new policy is not customer friendly, and the longer it is ignored, the more the resentment will increase.

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          • I have updated my optional matchmaking layout, I have changed muting to a simple point from 3 players and a 24 hour penalty from joining the same players that wanted you gone

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          • I'll take ANY in game matchmaking system at this point. Maybe that's bungies's plan. Take so long that we'll be happy with the existing mm mechanic without even fretting over the optional aspect (which would require them to do some actual work)

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            • I wouldn't mind a chat for the social space. No problem using the boards to find others, though. Also don't mind "exclusive" gear for "better" players. I don't pvp..the gear looks sick, but it's not my cup of tea (that realm of destiny), so I just miss out. You can't have everything. You want it? Step your game up..practice and get better, right? That's what I'd do, but I just don't care enough. No handouts!

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              • Edited by Kone19ps: 5/31/2015 2:06:25 AM
                After your matchmaking fix here's a few other concerns that should be addressed https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/125116808/0/0

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              • https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/125916523/0/0

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              • Does anyone else feel they are hoping that Bungie hopes optional MM posts eventually die down like the skip button requests?

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              • [quote]why does the End game content have to be for only the elitist?[/quote] Did you even read what you just wrote?

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                • Edited by Beck: 5/30/2015 7:17:46 PM
                  I'm sorry but bungie has responded to this. They don't want it for top tier endgame. I'm not saying that it's right or wrong just that bungie has said that they have zero want or intentions of adding it to this game.

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                  • Deej will not respond to us ,never , it's just a PUPPET in Bungie's hand. Every time he tell us to join a clan or how to find a group,like the newest with REZO CLAN ? He's patetic.. I lost the chance to have a optional matchmaking in this nice game,yeah ,Destiny it's nice great game in WRONG HAND. I'm with you man,i like your solution. i will BUMP everyday.

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                    • Look I'm not from Bungie, but I do know one thing! I'm tired of being one of the top players constantly, but still losing because my team sucks. It's annoying! With the trails of Osiris ur skill actually matters!!! This is great! Good players have something to do while the newer/ less skilled players have something to work towards! This helps pvp become so much more enjoyable. Now newer players won't have to worry about getting wrecked by higher leveled players who are more experienced! (Well as much)

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                    • I'll respond. Lfg. Problem solved... And it's easy! Not sure which group whines the most. The matchmaking crowd the sell gjallarhorn crowd of the pvp Nerf xxx weapon crowd.

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                      • I would like Co-op moar.

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