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originally posted in: I am an avid Christian; AMA
5/29/2015 6:57:55 PM
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Limiting someone's rights because I want to keep a sacred activity and its name separate from something that is considered an abomination? You want to know what limiting rights looks like? Look up the story of the girl on a college campus that was forced to move and was told it was because it was offensive. Know what she was promoting? The second amendment. One of our AMENDMENTS. Talk about petty. I never said I felt they should get this or that right. I just know they will.
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  • I don't know what that story is about without a link but it's not really on subject from what you're telling me. Your last sentence implies you think gay people should have different rights from straight people

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  • Edited by beardedwonder12: 5/29/2015 11:13:51 PM
    What rights are different? And the reason I bring up that story is because I'm sick of Christians, conservatives, pro life people, basically everyone but the left getting attacked and hated on. Basically, your stance is to defend someone's beliefs while squashing someone elses.

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  • Yes, because your beliefs 'squash' someone else's, so they need to be held to a higher standard of evidence. At the moment it boils down to this; You believe gayness is inherently wrong, but with no evidence other than your book, which cannot be proven true. You think that we should therefore limit the rights (pursuit of happiness etc) of these people. At the end of the day we don't have any good reason to follow your beliefs, because they are simply your beliefs - I'm sure you would admit they are faith based rather than based on irrefutable evidence. By the same logic we should all live under sharia law, but that wouldn't be fair because you can't force people to live by the rules of a religion they don't follow. I'm sure this is something you agree with when it comes to islam, but you aren't applying the same thinking to your own religion.

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  • I haven't said all humans shouldn't have the same rights. To be fair, why should a homosexual couple not have any right from the government that allows them to be in a legal binding relationship, that are bestowed upon a Heterosexual couple. I'm not saying what should or shouldn't happen, mostly because I've never been married and don't know what type of benefit it holds. But we must remember they aren't the same type of relationship, so if the govt granted some type of tax break (I'll use as an example) for heterosexual couples, it will only be seen as unfair. It will always be unfair to people. I think there's room for improvement in many areas. Christians feel this in their soul, it doesn't make any of us mean or hateful. I'm sorry you think anyone despises anyone else. I don't, and I like to think most don't either. But it's good we can have this discussion.

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  • I have not mentioned hate at all.

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