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lol no He's just trying to shift goalposts to avoid admitting that his arguments don't apply to the topic.
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  • I think you're refusing to accept that what he said is a valid counter argument to what you're saying. Destiny takes place almost 900 years in the future. They have technology that doesn't exist. Look at ice breaker. It doesn't even fire real bullets. To assume weapons in the future couldnt work a totally different way would be asinine

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  • Ice Breaker is basically just a mag rail. Those actually exist in reality. Albeit, not portable ones, but they do exist. You're making excuses. As I said... shifting goalpoasts. Also known as special pleading. Rather than taking it at face value, you're trying to say "well it's just beyond our understanding". It's not a valid argument in the slightest.

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  • I'm not though. That's the thing. In 900 years, as of today, weapons in real life have become even crazier and crazier. More advanced. Another 900 years into the future technology will be even more advanced. There's a law, I forgot who named it but I says some like every ten years technology doubles in its advancements. In that sense the advancements we made in next 900 year would actually be way faster than the previous 900 years. Math is crazy

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  • Which doesn't take into account the fact that the weapons in question are all based (albeit loosely) on modern design principles. The implementation of those principles is what I've called into question. Not the fact that they shoot void bullets or that they're reloading with batteries or that they let you slide further. I'm pointing out a lack of consistency and logic... nothing more. Attempting to argue that by basically stating "no logic applies to this" is just creating an excuse for the illogical, rather than simply agreeing that it's illogical. Which would be so much easier...

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  • Edited by EL CHUNKACABRA: 6/1/2015 3:50:27 PM
    They're aren't based on modern functional designs . the aesthetics yes. We make the weapons feel and look more like convential weapons. The way they actually work is not. Its advanced and different. We have to assume they've moved past the point of using gun powder which would eliminate the need for a functioning hammer system. That makes your point redundant

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  • So you realize that the entire point you're making is irrelevant when the topic was based specifically on the aesthetic appearance of the weapons, correct?

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  • So you realize you entire thread is pointless because its a video game

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  • Edited by JustOnePepsi: 6/1/2015 4:35:47 PM
    Why is it so hard for some to accept the obvious fact that Bungie attempted to design most of the weapons in the game on real-world counterparts, and I'm simply pointing out that those weapons would not work within the confines of reality? If you don't care, that's fine. I really don't care that you don't care. But "it's just a game" is not an argument. It's an excuse... one you're using to avoid admitting that I'm correct.

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  • The problem with your logic is that in the game it isn't 2015. Its the future. We don't know what would work 900 years in the future. You are wrong. Sit down. Go play destiny.

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  • It doesn't matter that it's 900 years in the future when the weapons are shown within the game to function as a modern firearm does. The shotguns, for instance, (with few exceptions) are obviously based on modern pump-actions and function as such. Again, you're [i]making excuses[/i]. It's [i]not a valid argument[/i]. Sit down. Admit I'm correct. And then [i]you[/i] go play Destiny, because it's too boring for me at this point and I won't be joining you as this thread is more entertaining.

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  • By your logic, anyone who doesn't agree with you is wrong and is making excuses. These are valid counter arguments to what you are saying. You want everyone to see things from your point of view but don't want to do the same when some offers a different point kid. The shotgun has barely changed design in like 200 years. The ammunition and system used to deliver the shot are most likely different. You're assuming these guns use a standard black powder ignition system. Which is stupid to assume. Since they don't require the same things modern convential fireearms need to fire they can look and fire whatever way the person who created it want it to. If they want it to look like a revolver they can. It doesn't impact the actual functionality or mechanics of the gun. You're trying to compare apples and oranges seeing as most of the guns in game, even the hand cannons and such, simply cannot exist because the ammunition they use hasn't been created or doesn't exist. And seeing as we can't tell what the future holds we don't know if something like this would be created. Your argument is null and void.

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  • Edited by JustOnePepsi: 6/1/2015 5:10:41 PM
    Ugh, I'm going to have to piecemeal this out... [quote]By your logic, anyone who doesn't agree with you is wrong and is making excuses.[/quote] Demonstrably untrue. [quote]These are valid counter arguments to what you are saying.[/quote] No they're not. They're excuses meant to avoid the topic at hand, and it's irritating. [quote]The shotgun has barely changed design in like 200 years. [/quote] This doesn't help your point. [quote]The ammunition and system used to deliver the shot are most likely different.[/quote] The ammunition is not the topic of this discussion. [quote]You're assuming these guns use a standard black powder ignition system.[/quote] No I'm not. [quote]Which is stupid to assume.[/quote] Just as stupid as assuming it was assumed in the first place. [quote]Since they don't require the same things modern convential fireearms need to fire they can look and fire whatever way the person who created it want it to.[/quote] This doesn't make the design any less wrong. [quote]If they want it to look like a revolver they can. It doesn't impact the actual functionality or mechanics of the gun.[/quote] Yes they can, and yes it does, if they expect suspension of disbelief. [quote]You're trying to compare apples and oranges seeing as most of the guns in game, even the hand cannons and such, simply cannot exist because the ammunition they use hasn't been created or doesn't exist.[/quote] Composition/division. [quote]And seeing as we can't tell what the future holds we don't know if something like this would be created.[/quote] Which is why it's fair to judge them based on the same principles with which they were designed, which is quite obviously the mechanical functionality of [i]modern firearms[/i]. [quote]Your argument is null and void.[/quote] Your assertion is patently false.

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  • And you're a scrub in this game. Get good haha

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  • And you called me the "kid"...

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  • The only thing based off anything modern are the aesthetics. Pure and simple. You're comparing how something looks with how it works. You can't. Therefore you're wrong. Have a good day being wrong, over there in your wrongness just wronging it up all day wrong

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  • Thank you for agreeing with me.

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  • http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law

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  • Moore's law.

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  • Malthusian growth model

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  • Actually that didn't look right so I googled it. Moore's law.

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  • Thank you. Its early I'm not fully awake yet

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