[quote]you're attempt to say something is not accepted because some do not accept it. [i]That's[/i] a fallacy.[/quote] That's a straw-man argument if I've ever seen one. The irony is that [i]this statement[/i] is a fallacy. It purposely misrepresents my statement in a way that allows you to knock it down. In the [i]same sense[/i], you're attempting to say that something [i]is[/i] accepted because some do accept it. The difference between our two claims, is that mine never mentions a degree of 'unacceptability". What I actually said was that because something isn't accepted, it can be said that it's unaccepted. Semantically speaking, this leaves room for the duality expected to be found in the general population, IE: from the perspective of a group of people who think the drinking age should be lowered, the law can either be accepted or unaccepted. Of course, that's not even close to the argument we were just having: You use cthreepo's link in an attempt to contradict an opponent's argument: this is fallacious. You say that his idea's are commonly accepted: this is fallacious. Edit: just reread your post to find that your comparison is actually also a false equivalence fallacy. Good on ya!