I have a Thorn. I don't use it because im not the biggest fan of Hand Cannons. But I will contend that it seems most of competitive crucible is full of Thorns. I went up against Dozens of teams in Trials many of which all were using Thorn. Still went flawless 3 times. Destiny has this problem with Nerfing and Buffing that makes the unbalance in this game insane. Its not a Thorn problem its a Destiny Problem. Bungie has effectivley forced players into using specific guns competitivley because they give you an edge. In ToO I was playing with a friend that was level 33 and he would get hit once in the head by thorn and die from after burn. Whole teams with Thorns would play "defense" camping opening spawn. Waiting for impatient players to rush in and get 2 shot by them. Its not whether you can outshoot them. Its about having a level playing field that doesnt consist of 85% of players using a single gun. I have the Thorn. Its a cool gun. But i assure you with threads like these, we will see this gun being nerfed. Just like the many before it as a result of threads like these. I just want to see a varied playing field. Not one filled with Thorns. Or.. I'll start using mine and say -blam!- it.