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originally posted in: I am an avid Christian; AMA
Edited by Rick: 6/3/2015 6:53:54 PM
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No, you misunderstand. What if you are worshipping the wrong god? The very god you believe in promises hell to those who don't believe or that worship other gods. What if you're worshipping the wrong one? Aside from that, modern feel-good Christianity may be about "love and happiness" but that's not a biblical view of the religion.
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  • Well then I die worshiping the wrong God.

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  • I won't press it any more, but I just can't see how that doesn't bother you. It seems like you don't care whether or not what you believe is true, and that's never a good thing.

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  • Because I stand strong for what I know is true, not what I hope is true.

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  • And how did you come about this knowledge? And if a Muslim tells me they know Islam is true, what do you say to that? They are just wrong and you are right?

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  • That is just a situation where you agree to disagree. I know because of what the Bible tells me. God gave us his Word and his word is the Bible. I choose to believe the Bible to it's full extent.

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  • Other religions have their holy books as well. What makes yours any different? You believe in god because of the Bible... You believe in the Bible because of god.... You don't see the problem with that? For your own sake, just take an outside look at the absurdity of Christianity or god in general. I really wish you would. And I don't mean that time when you were in college and you were drinking and having sex or doing whatever you think makes you not religious... I mean an intellectually honest look at it from an outside perspective.

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  • In other words, doubt my faith? You are trying to debate with me, setting out to prove me wrong. I simply created this to answer questions and I am answering them, you simply disagree with my answers. In which I understand. You aren't the first.

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  • All I am saying, is care about whether or not what you believe is true.

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  • I do care. If I didn't, I wouldn't be pursing a life that I want to live. God tells us not to worry, so I don't. You are telling me I should be worried about it all being fake, instead I tell you I am confident in my beliefs. So you, in return, say I don't care if it's true or not? That makes no sense.

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  • How can you say "god says do this so I do it" and then turn around and say you care whether or not your beliefs are true? You refuse to even question them? That's intellectually dishonest, and shows that you don't care if they are true.

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  • I don't know what you are trying to get at or why you decide to twist my words into meaning something you want them to mean, but I'm going to say one last thing and I'm replying to you. Obviously there is no winning here, there is no answer that I can give you that will satisfy you yet I have still sat here and given you my point of view continuously. I fell off of my faith, I gave up. But then one day I started thinking about things. If I continue this way, won't I just go to hell? But if it's not real... then I won't go to hell? But then what? I know that when I die, I will go to Heaven. But you asked me to step away and to view it from a different angle, so I did. And I said yes I care, because I don't want to die and end up somewhere else or realizing that everything was all a lie. Then you continued to jump on that and use it against me. I shouldn't have taken a view change I suppose, but I did it to try and stand on even grounds with you. It's not about caring, it's about knowing. If you are given a guarantee to win the lottery no matter what numbers you have, then why would you care about what numbers you have? If you are guaranteed a new free car, why would you care what kind of car it is? If someone offers to pay your bills for the rest of your life, no strings attached, then why do you care how they are able to do so? Of course you might wonder why me? But I wonder that to, all the time. Why me? Why am I so blessed? Why did God give his son or me? Because he loves me, and Jesus loves me too. Simple as that. And that's my rock hard belief with no doubts. I'm sorry we can't have more leveled discussion, you simply disagree with too much of the things I say. It's quite unfortunate.

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  • Don't do that. His questions were very straightforward. You're dancing around his questions and its very dishonest. What is the difference between the bible and Quran? What makes one true over the other? And questioning your beliefs is not a bad thing, I've heard many apologists say it can strengthen your faith.

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  • He has questioned his faith.

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  • You don't know - that's the point. You believe, have faith, etc.. My point is that you don't know, you've decided your particular god is real, and that's it. You don't honestly care about whether or not that god even exists. I care about whether or not my beliefs are true. I don't decide they are true, and then oppose any viewpoint that states otherwise. You have been deluded, and I don't mean that as an insult. I hope that one day you will open your eyes and see reality for what it really is.

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  • As do I for you.

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  • [quote]All I am saying, is care about whether or not what you believe is true.[/quote]

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