The DoT needs to be addressed. Either that or every weapon in the Crucible needs to be balanced better, but for now, I could settle with the DoT not causing death but keeping 1 HP so literally ANYTHING can kill them.
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Hush little baby don't you cry, Thorn's gonna sing you a lullaby. Two straight shots to your head, to make sure you wind up stone-cold dead. And if that good ol' Thorn don't kill, Damage Over Time will make sure it will. Fusions and shotguns don't you fret, post mortem kills is what we'll get. And if you're still alive, be-ware. There's plenty more Thorns in the Garden out there.
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If your only problem with Thorn is the DOT, then just dance! Seriously, try it next time. Dancing removes the dot. Thorn needs to be buffed back to a 2 shot kill.
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Dude the animation is long for the dance and the sit so anyone can get you
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[quote]Dude the animation is long for the dance and the sit so anyone can get you[/quote] Are you retarded? I am not suggesting you hit the right arrow, then stand there and start dancing. Hit the right arrow then move. You don't need to wait for it to start dancing. You should also do this from cover. I thought this was all obvious.
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Um. No. I'm positive it [b]does not. [/b]
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Sitting definitely gets rid of it so I would be inclined to believe that dancing would remove it as well
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[quote]Um. No. I'm positive it [b]does not. [/b][/quote] Why don't you try it instead of arguing a point you are ignorant about.
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[quote]The DoT needs to be addressed. Either that or every weapon in the Crucible needs to be balanced better, but for now, I could settle with the DoT not causing death but keeping 1 HP so literally ANYTHING can kill them.[/quote] Let 2 head shots kill them. Reduce the body shot damage So it takes 5 body shots to kill them with DoT. This is a reasonable fix for all of you crybabies. Then you can't say "waaaaaaahh!!! Thorn is too OP! Pls nrf bng!!!!" Only skilled users could kill with it this way.
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There's no reason to be an asshole. And there's no excuse for having anything two-shot kill anybody in Crucible. That's ridiculous. This just sounds like somebody who doesn't want to lose an advantage for having a weapon..
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[quote]There's no reason to be an asshole. And there's no excuse for having anything two-shot kill anybody in Crucible. That's ridiculous. This just sounds like somebody who doesn't want to lose an advantage for having a weapon..[/quote] Hawkmoon can 2 shot kill, the last word can 2 shot kill, any shotgun can 2 hit kill, any sniper will 2 hit kill(max). Here's the funny thing... I haven't used my thorn in ages! I prefer my vex! Can't wait for a MIDA multi-tool. You can't say that I don't want to lose an advantage because the vex has been nerfed numerous times(by itself, with autos, with fusions) bungie can't seem to figure out what it is.
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We're talking about a Hand Cannon though. The Last Word needs to be fixed, I don't agree with Hawkmoon even existing with those perks ( ridiculous gun, I don't want it on the XBox ).
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I agree completely with TLW. Make it so it can only 2 hit when hip fired. Hawkmoon is fine, it can only 2 shot with 3 luck rounds in a mag.
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There are multiple pulse rifles now that 2 shot.
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Exactly
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Slow firing, get out DPSed by Thorn
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Red Death destroys thorn every time I use it
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The stability hurts Red Death
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The only thing I would want is the DoT not stacking in pvp. TLW is a bigger problem in crucible.
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Pretty sure it doesn't.
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Easy. Lower its RoF.
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Or get rid of Perfect balance and halve the base stabilty.
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Yes! I've been saying the weapon balance is fine for everything but Thorn's DoT need to leave you with 1hp, just to prevent burn & hiders.
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This^ This is what I think think and ideal fix would be