I have played since day one but that does not make mine or your opinions any better than anyone else's. Same thing with stats or grimorie or what even. Just because I give a shit about having a balanced pvp does not make me a scrub. I enjoy destroying people with thorn as much as the next bloke but that doesn't mean I ignore that's it's much better than every other primary in the game. And I'm also not an idiot and I know ARs need a buff but that's not what this topic is about