Having a thorn and using it in PvP isn't any different than a Gally used in PvE. It's all RNG. Technically everyone has the same opportunity and chance to get it. If people are tired of it in crucible, there are ways to avoid getting killed by thorn. Secondly, Thorn is generally a 2 head shot kill. Red Death is also a 2 head shot kill. No one complains about Red Death however do they? If there are people complaining about Thorn, they should be equally as many complaining about Red Death. However, there is not. Can anyone explain to me why this is true? My perception is that people are tired of killing someone with Thorn only to die via Burn afterwords. Speaking of burn, why are there no threads to nerd sun singer ability that always procs burn and extends burn duration? Constructive arguments here would be nice. Thanks…