[quote]I've been reading a lot of this topic lately and have been watching the struggle. I've only just started talking on the subject last night but I want to put this out there to whoever is pro matchmaking. No matchmaking is not .. despite what some people seem to think. to bring the community together.[/quote] That is the entire point of matchmaking in games. Only up until now, Nintendo were the only ones who didn't understand that and put up giant barriers to socialization. [quote]The playlists that have matchmaking do so because they're not overly complicated. They don't require communication or gear loadouts. They simply require the desire to point and shoot.[/quote] So you're implying that the only thing a matchmade group is capable of doing is pointing and shooting? You're correct that the playlists that have matchmaking not requiring headsets, but the reason only that content has mm isn't because mm groups wouldn't be able to accomplish harder tasks. The reason they don't want to include it is because someone in a mm group might call little Billy a scrub or make fun of his tiny voice. They are terrified of the Halo 3 reputation and so because a few might be bad seeds, everyone has to suffer. [quote]I couldn't imagine trying to do Qodron with people that don't know the fight You could say "Teach those that don't know!" But come on .. this isn't a utopia Anyone that's played any online gaming ever know that there are just some people that won't read your messages or listen to you when you try to explain something.[/quote] I've played online games content infinitely more complex than anything found in Destiny with no headsets, just chat boxes and groups have had zero issues beating the challenges before them. [quote]You could dumb the fights down so that it's easily do able with a "let's shoot things " attitude. But that's not fair to people that can form groups with friends or are willing to take the time to find a solid group on lfg.[/quote] No one is asking anything to be dumbed down and you can still LFG. It's funny, you commented in a rebuttle to someone else that they were full of hate for typing the words "special snowflake" and yet you have no issue passive aggressively intimating that anyone who use mm are inferior idiots to LFG groups. Random vs random. Same player base, but let's all praise you. [quote]So what then create two versions where the non match made version rewards more so that the more hardcore players feel rewarded. Then we're right back here with this problem. People wanting matchmaking for that too.[/quote] What are you even talking about? Hardcore? Because you LFG? Should we compare playtime for everyone? [quote]Don't get me wrong I hate the prejudice of people thinking you have to have gjally for everything.[/quote] But are perfectly content with prejudice thinking that you're better than anyone you could meet in matchmaking... [quote]I do each Poe / nightfall / raids multiple times a week just to help people and I don't have a gjally because that's just how rng is in a tradeless game.[/quote] That's very nice of you. [quote]So thinking how this would affect the difficulty curve of the game ..[/quote] It wouldn't. [quote]Matchmaking is a terrible idea.[/quote] Don't use it. [quote]Maybe for nightfall ? If you wanna risk it with people you don't know I mean ..[/quote] Again, as apposed to "risking" it with people you also "don't know" from LFG.... [quote]could be a time sink but most nightfalls are easily soloable so it's reasonable to request matchmaking there.[/quote] They're all easily soloable. [quote]And finally Trials. I ... Don't even think I need to say why this would be a terrible idea to be matchmade[/quote] Because you have no argument. [quote]If you aren't a big pvper then well. It just doesn't matter because aside from adept weapons the gear is just okay at best.[/quote] So if the rewards are crap, what do you care who can play? [quote]Matchmaking would just make my 9-0 easier.[/quote] Lego your ego.