Hey, the PvE crowd (other than the -blam!- face you were arguing with {which you roasted I might add}) just wants PvE and PvP nerfs and Buffs to be Seperate Accordingly. Should Thorn be nerfed in PvE? No, it's nothing Special. Should Thorn be nerfed in PvP? HELL YES, and we both know why lol. But to assume the whole PvE crowd is to blame is wrong and prejudice. Love- A Trials Champion and a Killer of Elders and Gods.