Oh look it's you. I didn't demand anything. Are you ever done being wrong? I love this game, and I want to be [b]balanced[/b] in PVP. Can you even read? What exactly did I demand? I was pointing out how AR's made every other choice not viable... Which was exactly the case. They destroyed the balance as much than Thorn did... Even Bungie said so... Oh look out! More proof!!! [quote]Soon after the launch of Destiny, I knew that Auto Rifles were due for a retool. In a pre-game lobby for an evening of clan warfare, a seasoned killer welcomed a newcomer to the arena with some sage advice: “We’re headed into the Crucible. You’re gonna want an Auto Rifle.” Uh, oh… If that’s the only logical choice, we better enjoy Suros while we can! Then came the flood of Tweets and posts about the Auto Rifle and Shotgun exhibitions that were dominating the Crucible. Then came the User Research data. It turned out that the vast majority of you were, in fact, using the same weapons to turn your enemies into burning cinders to be carried away on the wind.[/quote] Taken from here: https://www.bungie.net/7_Bungie-Weekly-Update---10172014/en/News/News?aid=12295 Soooo.... I was right? Yep sure was. Then auto's were balanced... Perfectly as I've said many times. No one was complaining about them, and many people still used them very effectively in PVP. Their [i]second[/i] nerf that made them obsolete, had [i]nothing[/i] to do with balance requests... Even though all the PVE wieners like to say so. The second AR nerf that you and the rest of the PVE crowd are so upset about was actually caused by YOU guys [b]using them too much[/b] Here's yet... More proof. https://www.bungie.net/7_Destiny-Weapon-Tuning/en/News/News?aid=12557 Check it out. Ok let's tally it up. My statements backed up by articles, Bungie references and actual facts... And then there's you posting stuff you don't actually know about, but just vehement opinion over and over and over and over.... You're defeated man... You literally have no defence left... Anything else you say just looks desperate. And like I said to you before, I'm so done trying to convince stone headed, emotional imbeciles. You can use all the compelling logic and prof you want, you ignorant fools won't budge.