How about some honesty: You did it to yourself. If a team takes more then 15 minutes per section, I seriously re-evaluate things and people that are on the team. I won't kick people, but i will give people a "what for" talking to, and either ask them to leave on their own or shape the fudge up. At most the VoG should only take approx 30-70 minutes. anything longer is just someone either trolling or too inexperienced for the level they are attempting to beat. (or attempting to be carried, which i have nothing against, just be up front with people and ask beforehand)