Fallout 4 will hurt the pve base and The Division will be the nail in the coffin. As far as pvp that remains to be seen, how good could BO3 possibly be after the last few cod's. Destiny had no competition, especially on next-gen.
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Division got delayed
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To when?
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what about COD advanced warfare and battlefield hardline?
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Hardline was butchered by players and critics, it sucked. AW from what I have seen isn't that great, keep hearing Titanfall references, which sucked.
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Hardline got old really fast, and AW was decent, but as you may notice by my name, I have insanely high hopes for BO3
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Vonderhaar had been listening to our needs, some say. I hope there's another nuketown map, if it hasn't been revealed ready.
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Edited by Andy: 6/12/2015 2:44:13 AMthat's my point. these games were supposed to be major competition for destiny but really did no damage to it at all. I know this sounds crazy but do you think there will be a squads type mode in BO3?
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Because they were so bad, it was all hype. Destiny is a solid FPS, it falls way short on all the other things it was supposed to be.